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	<title>Comments on: Twitter Updates on David Bain Trial?</title>
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		<title>By: shiny</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/03/twitter-updates-on-david-bain-trial.html#comment-1940</link>
		<dc:creator>shiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good on you guys, there are far too many people making judgement on little or no evidence at all. bang on the button it is up to a court to decide on verdicts not the general populace. i admire your ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good on you guys, there are far too many people making judgement on little or no evidence at all. bang on the button it is up to a court to decide on verdicts not the general populace. i admire your ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: Madeleine</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/03/twitter-updates-on-david-bain-trial.html#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We got asked to blog on the trial by a number of people, we kept getting asked for our opinion on it and people keep searching our site to see if we had blogged on it so we wrote the above.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To answer your question, yes we do take issue with media and net and twitter accounts of trials as they are happening. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They report complex pieces of evidence in tiny soundbites and they do so out of the context of the entire case and minus the body language, intonation and facial expression and frequently without the accompanying visual evidence, that the court gets to hear and see.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Further, given as a society we charge our courts with making the decision as to criminal guilt or innocence we question the appropriateness of the practice of such reporting when such reporters/bloggers/tweeters know that those hearing the reports are going to take the information and asess whether they think the accused is innocent or guilty and publicly speculate. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To my mind this is not appropriate; the charges are serious, a person&#039;s entire future and reputation is at stake and in this instance several people lost their lives. It is the court&#039;s place to decide and it potentially undermines the presumption of innocence that all accuseds are entitled to receive from society. Further, in this case, there is an attempt to deflect guilt onto someone who is dead who cannot defend himself who too deserves the presumption of innocence.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In addition, if there is a mistrial and a new jury has to be selected it makes doing so and ensuring a fair trial very difficult.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So no, Matt and I will not participate in trial by blogosphere or permit our blog to be used to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got asked to blog on the trial by a number of people, we kept getting asked for our opinion on it and people keep searching our site to see if we had blogged on it so we wrote the above.</p>
<p>To answer your question, yes we do take issue with media and net and twitter accounts of trials as they are happening. </p>
<p>They report complex pieces of evidence in tiny soundbites and they do so out of the context of the entire case and minus the body language, intonation and facial expression and frequently without the accompanying visual evidence, that the court gets to hear and see.</p>
<p>Further, given as a society we charge our courts with making the decision as to criminal guilt or innocence we question the appropriateness of the practice of such reporting when such reporters/bloggers/tweeters know that those hearing the reports are going to take the information and asess whether they think the accused is innocent or guilty and publicly speculate. </p>
<p>To my mind this is not appropriate; the charges are serious, a person&#8217;s entire future and reputation is at stake and in this instance several people lost their lives. It is the court&#8217;s place to decide and it potentially undermines the presumption of innocence that all accuseds are entitled to receive from society. Further, in this case, there is an attempt to deflect guilt onto someone who is dead who cannot defend himself who too deserves the presumption of innocence.</p>
<p>In addition, if there is a mistrial and a new jury has to be selected it makes doing so and ensuring a fair trial very difficult.</p>
<p>So no, Matt and I will not participate in trial by blogosphere or permit our blog to be used to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Bree</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/03/twitter-updates-on-david-bain-trial.html#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>Bree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you saying you are opposed to blow by blow media accounts of trials?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying you are opposed to blow by blow media accounts of trials?</p>
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		<title>By: Madeleine</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/03/twitter-updates-on-david-bain-trial.html#comment-1067</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries - I enjoy the dissection of ideas and thought you raised some interesting points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries &#8211; I enjoy the dissection of ideas and thought you raised some interesting points.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwipolemicist</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/03/twitter-updates-on-david-bain-trial.html#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwipolemicist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I should have made myself clearer. I wasn&#039;t so much responding to your post as using it as a jumping off point. My sole intention was to examine a fallacious aphorism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I should have made myself clearer. I wasn&#8217;t so much responding to your post as using it as a jumping off point. My sole intention was to examine a fallacious aphorism.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwipolemicist</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/03/twitter-updates-on-david-bain-trial.html#comment-1044</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwipolemicist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of Pr 17:28.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve written a response to this post:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/are-we-innocent-until-proven-guilty-in-a-court-of-law/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/are-we-innocent-until-proven-guilty-in-a-court-of-law/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of Pr 17:28.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written a response to this post:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/are-we-innocent-until-proven-guilty-in-a-court-of-law/" REL="nofollow">http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/are-we-innocent-until-proven-guilty-in-a-court-of-law/</a></p>
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