Comments on: Sunday Study R 13: Romans, Revelations and the Role of the State http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/09/sunday-study-r-13-romans-revelations-and-the-state.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=sunday-study-r-13-romans-revelations-and-the-state Philosophy of Religion, Ethics, Theology and Jurisprudence Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:03:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Christian Libertarian Blog Carnival September 09 « Theology Geek NZ http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/09/sunday-study-r-13-romans-revelations-and-the-state.html#comment-6868 Christian Libertarian Blog Carnival September 09 « Theology Geek NZ Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:48:49 +0000 http://www.mandm.org.nz/?p=1184#comment-6868 [...] Sunday Study, R 13: Romans, Revelations and the Role of the State was featured this [...] [...] Sunday Study, R 13: Romans, Revelations and the Role of the State was featured this [...]

]]> By: The Holy Cause http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/09/sunday-study-r-13-romans-revelations-and-the-state.html#comment-6866 The Holy Cause Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:20:15 +0000 http://www.mandm.org.nz/?p=1184#comment-6866 <strong>The September 2009 Edition of The Christian libertarian Blog Carnival...</strong> Dr Matthew Flannagan presents “Sunday Study R 13: Romans, Revelations and the Role of the State” posted at MandM. Matthew writes: In a previous post, Sunday Study: 666 The Number of the Beast, I exegeted Revelation 13’s infamous reference to the... The September 2009 Edition of The Christian libertarian Blog Carnival…

Dr Matthew Flannagan presents “Sunday Study R 13: Romans, Revelations and the Role of the State” posted at MandM. Matthew writes:

In a previous post, Sunday Study: 666 The Number of the Beast, I exegeted Revelation 13’s infamous reference to the…

]]> By: bethyada http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/09/sunday-study-r-13-romans-revelations-and-the-state.html#comment-4104 bethyada Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:35:59 +0000 http://www.mandm.org.nz/?p=1184#comment-4104 Much of what you say here is reasonable, but it can be gotten from other aspects of Scripture. Peter disregarded authorities when they told him to stop preaching. I see Paul's command as generic. I do think however that governments are God's agents, even evil ones to a degree. That is God can and does use them to his purpose. And even when a state is evil, it is right to obey them in as much as doing so does not offend God. Disregarding the state by appealing to its evil is not valid; even David refused to raise his hand against Saul after it was revealed that David was God's chosen to be the next king. I think there is much about our government that is not godly, but I can still do my best to obey most of the laws, even the suboptimal laws, inasmuch as I am not <i>actively</i> disobeying my God. .-= My last blog-post ..<a href="http://bethyada.blogspot.com/2009/09/random-quote.html" rel="nofollow">Random quote</a> =-. Much of what you say here is reasonable, but it can be gotten from other aspects of Scripture. Peter disregarded authorities when they told him to stop preaching. I see Paul’s command as generic.

I do think however that governments are God’s agents, even evil ones to a degree. That is God can and does use them to his purpose. And even when a state is evil, it is right to obey them in as much as doing so does not offend God.

Disregarding the state by appealing to its evil is not valid; even David refused to raise his hand against Saul after it was revealed that David was God’s chosen to be the next king.

I think there is much about our government that is not godly, but I can still do my best to obey most of the laws, even the suboptimal laws, inasmuch as I am not actively disobeying my God.
.-= My last blog-post ..Random quote =-.

]]> By: Max http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/09/sunday-study-r-13-romans-revelations-and-the-state.html#comment-4103 Max Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:39:56 +0000 http://www.mandm.org.nz/?p=1184#comment-4103 Excellent and timely piece. I would say that most governments contain some elements of the sort of rule addressed in Rom 13 and some elements of the sort of rule addressed in Rev 13. Hence a person can both oppose and support a government the same time. As we all do. The danger arises when the idea of total support or total opposition gets into people’s heads. Excellent and timely piece. I would say that most governments contain some elements of the sort of rule addressed in Rom 13 and some elements of the sort of rule addressed in Rev 13. Hence a person can both oppose and support a government the same time. As we all do. The danger arises when the idea of total support or total opposition gets into people’s heads.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/09/sunday-study-r-13-romans-revelations-and-the-state.html#comment-4102 Anonymous Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:38:59 +0000 http://www.mandm.org.nz/?p=1184#comment-4102 Excellent and timely piece. I would say that most governments contain some elements of the sort of rule addressed in Rom 13 and some elements of the sort of rule addressed in Rev 13. Hence a person can both oppose and support a government the same time. As we all do. The danger arises when the idea of total support or total opposition gets into people's heads. Excellent and timely piece. I would say that most governments contain some elements of the sort of rule addressed in Rom 13 and some elements of the sort of rule addressed in Rev 13. Hence a person can both oppose and support a government the same time. As we all do. The danger arises when the idea of total support or total opposition gets into people’s heads.

]]> By: Lucia Maria http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/09/sunday-study-r-13-romans-revelations-and-the-state.html#comment-4097 Lucia Maria Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:13:37 +0000 http://www.mandm.org.nz/?p=1184#comment-4097 Thanks, that was really interesting. .-= My last blog-post ..<a href="http://nzconservative.blogspot.com/2009/09/friday-night-free-for-all.html" rel="nofollow">Friday Night Free for All</a> =-. Thanks, that was really interesting.
.-= My last blog-post ..Friday Night Free for All =-.

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