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	<title>Comments on: Auckland STAANZ Conference: Eschatology and Pneumatology UPDATED</title>
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		<title>By: Does Abortion Benefit the Fetus? A Critique of Himma Part 1 &#171; Theology Geek NZ</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/11/auckland-staanz-conference-eschatology-and-pneumatology.html#comment-15835</link>
		<dc:creator>Does Abortion Benefit the Fetus? A Critique of Himma Part 1 &#171; Theology Geek NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This series was developed from the paper I gave to the Auckland STAANZ Conference: Eschatology and Pneumatology. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/11/auckland-staanz-conference-eschatology-and-pneumatology.html#comment-13065</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have added this....

This is an interesting one for the question of inerrancy, strictly defined. I&#039;m in the process of writing a blog about the role of inerrancy in historical Christian thought, and the case of exaggerating Old Testament accounts is one that Luther brings up. He frankly admits that the accounts are not strictly correct, but are being overstated for effect, just as other historic accounts from that period were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have added this&#8230;.</p>
<p>This is an interesting one for the question of inerrancy, strictly defined. I&#8217;m in the process of writing a blog about the role of inerrancy in historical Christian thought, and the case of exaggerating Old Testament accounts is one that Luther brings up. He frankly admits that the accounts are not strictly correct, but are being overstated for effect, just as other historic accounts from that period were.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I concur about the practice of exaggerating. It&#039;s a bit like saying &quot;wipe them off the face of the planet,&quot; when that clearly isn&#039;t going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I concur about the practice of exaggerating. It&#8217;s a bit like saying &#8220;wipe them off the face of the planet,&#8221; when that clearly isn&#8217;t going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/11/auckland-staanz-conference-eschatology-and-pneumatology.html#comment-12993</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn

&lt;i&gt;when he was answering the challenge about the deaths of young children and the unborn in the Bible (when women were killed in the conquest), WIlliam Lane Craig used Himma&#039;s line of reasoning - saying that it wasn&#039;t as horrible as the skeptic made it sound, because these being were not culpable of sin and therefore went to heaven!&lt;/i&gt;

I was thinking about this a couple of days ago. I think the critique I offer against Himma would not apply to the special case Craig cites. More interestingly however I am not sure Craig’s argument is necessary, this is because I have come across some arguments lately which contend that the references to killing every one in the conquest narrative are actually hyperbole. Wolterstorff gave a paper on this at Notre Dame recently citing internal evidence within the text for this conclusion. Funnily enough around the same time I have come across some of the writings of Kitchen, Hess and Younger who note amongst other things  that the use of such language is a common hyperbole in Assyrian, Hittite and Egyptian annals of war this is something I have been reflecting on a bit lately and may blog on at some time in the future when I have studied it in a bit more depth.  

Btw next years STAANZ conference is in Dunedin so you and Max can both attend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn</p>
<p><i>when he was answering the challenge about the deaths of young children and the unborn in the Bible (when women were killed in the conquest), WIlliam Lane Craig used Himma&#8217;s line of reasoning &#8211; saying that it wasn&#8217;t as horrible as the skeptic made it sound, because these being were not culpable of sin and therefore went to heaven!</i></p>
<p>I was thinking about this a couple of days ago. I think the critique I offer against Himma would not apply to the special case Craig cites. More interestingly however I am not sure Craig’s argument is necessary, this is because I have come across some arguments lately which contend that the references to killing every one in the conquest narrative are actually hyperbole. Wolterstorff gave a paper on this at Notre Dame recently citing internal evidence within the text for this conclusion. Funnily enough around the same time I have come across some of the writings of Kitchen, Hess and Younger who note amongst other things  that the use of such language is a common hyperbole in Assyrian, Hittite and Egyptian annals of war this is something I have been reflecting on a bit lately and may blog on at some time in the future when I have studied it in a bit more depth.  </p>
<p>Btw next years STAANZ conference is in Dunedin so you and Max can both attend.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/11/auckland-staanz-conference-eschatology-and-pneumatology.html#comment-12969</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep Max, we&#039;re in Dunedin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep Max, we&#8217;re in Dunedin.</p>
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		<title>By: Of Papers, Jobs, Weddings and TV Shows &#171; Theology Geek NZ</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/11/auckland-staanz-conference-eschatology-and-pneumatology.html#comment-12811</link>
		<dc:creator>Of Papers, Jobs, Weddings and TV Shows &#171; Theology Geek NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of course tomorrow Matt will give his paper “Abortion, Harm and Eschatology” to the STAANZ conference. On Sunday I am not only attending Filia Day&#8217;s wedding but I am doing the makeup for her 4 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of course tomorrow Matt will give his paper “Abortion, Harm and Eschatology” to the STAANZ conference. On Sunday I am not only attending Filia Day&#8217;s wedding but I am doing the makeup for her 4 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/11/auckland-staanz-conference-eschatology-and-pneumatology.html#comment-12799</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You in Dunedin Glenn?
.-= My last blog-post ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/a-blog-near-you/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Blog Near You&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You in Dunedin Glenn?<br />
.-= My last blog-post ..<a href="http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/a-blog-near-you/" rel="nofollow">A Blog Near You</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s interesting is that when he was answering the challenge about the deaths of young children and the unborn in the Bible (when women were killed in the conquest), WIlliam Lane Craig used Himma&#039;s line of reasoning - saying that it wasn&#039;t as horrible as the skeptic made it sound, because these being were not culpable of sin and therefore went to heaven!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s interesting is that when he was answering the challenge about the deaths of young children and the unborn in the Bible (when women were killed in the conquest), WIlliam Lane Craig used Himma&#8217;s line of reasoning &#8211; saying that it wasn&#8217;t as horrible as the skeptic made it sound, because these being were not culpable of sin and therefore went to heaven!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/11/auckland-staanz-conference-eschatology-and-pneumatology.html#comment-12666</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grrrr, up there and taking part in things like this is where I need to be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grrrr, up there and taking part in things like this is where I need to be!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucia Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/11/auckland-staanz-conference-eschatology-and-pneumatology.html#comment-12610</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucia Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my goodness, that argument of Himma&#039;s is ridiculous!  Either that, or he endorses infanticide as well.  Not to mention that if you deprive a person of their life, you prevent them from gaining merits in order to gain a higher place in Heaven.

I came across alot of these spiritual idiots a number of years ago when I used argue abortion, but didn&#039;t realise there were Christian idiots as well.  I just thought only pagans argued that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my goodness, that argument of Himma&#8217;s is ridiculous!  Either that, or he endorses infanticide as well.  Not to mention that if you deprive a person of their life, you prevent them from gaining merits in order to gain a higher place in Heaven.</p>
<p>I came across alot of these spiritual idiots a number of years ago when I used argue abortion, but didn&#8217;t realise there were Christian idiots as well.  I just thought only pagans argued that way.</p>
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