I really wonder if you have considered what you are trying to achieve. I do not think I will become a Christian anytime soon or radically change my views on what the law should be on abortion. However, I would far more likely be to change my view by listening to Matt or Madeleine than you.

I feel very strongly about the law banning smacking which undermines parental authority. I have lobbied against it and collected thousands of signatures. John Boscawen has arranged public meetings where MPs supporting the law have attended. If those lobbying for a law change were to abuse these MPs it would reflect badly on the rest of us.

I think you should look at the latest post by Matt on St Matthews on the Terrace. An aggressive and anonymous response like yours does nothing to aid your cause.

If you look at the comments on Kiwiblog in relation to the destruction of the billboard many atheists viewed the billboard at this time of year as provocative.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/12/christian_intolerance.html#comments

I have many Christian friends. Fortunately most are not holier than thou.

There is only one way the law on abortion will change and that is it will be more liberal than restrictive. The only way the abortion rate will reduce is to change public attitude. That will not be achieved by name calling. It might make you feel good but it will just alienate people.

Reed, what are you trying to achieve?
Well, with my liberal comment I was trying to convey (in a light hearted manner!) that people that call themselves liberal often try to impose their (im)morality. Some readers would understand.

I understand that you didn’t like my “Dr. Evil” comment.

Cheers,

Reed.

Madeleine Flannagan of MandM.org Blog has just appeared on a very interesting TV panel on Abortion and Parental concent on Pacific Viewpoint.

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Ohmigosh, you read them, too? That’s one of my favorite blogs ever! I knew about her appearing on…

I should have guessed you were a liberal when you first tried to impose your “name calling” morals on to me.

Reed, what are you trying to achieve? Calling names anonymously over the internet is hardly going to achieve much. It says more about you than the person you are anonymously attacking.

I cannot recall being called a liberal before. I guess if it is defined as someone who does not share your point of view then I am guilty.

As I said in an earlier post Madeleine did very well. She raised public awareness about sex education. I know her and Matt view abortion as murder or homicide. However, if she had refereed to Dr Hutchison as Dr Evil she may have impressed you but not that many more.

To put is simply if you want initiate change in society you have to act in a mature civilised manner.

If you want to know Matt and Madeleine’s perspectives about you

I do not think that will be necessary. I have observed them in discussions with people far more liberal than I am. You should come along to a bloggers evening. You might learn something. I would be very surprised if you called most of the people there evil as that is what they are by your definition.

The above statements are true irrespective of “majority” or being “genuine in your beliefs”. Do you disagree?

If you want to know Matt and Madeleine’s perspectives about you and other liberals you’ll have to ask them. I should have guessed you were a liberal when you first tried to impose your “name calling” morals on to me.

I have had a drink with Matt and Madeleine at bloggers evenings. Many of the people present are far more liberal than I let alone Matt and Madeleine on matters relatiog to abortion and homosexuality. I hope they do not think everyone including me who holds a different view on moral issues is evil.

Name calling – whether on these issues or ETS does little to promote ones cause. The may be exceptions like Al Gore whose main motive appears to be making money. However, in the case of Dr Hutchinson it appears to me he is genuine in his beliefs.

Therefore;

3) You can’t kill a creature that has no blood (i.e. a human embryo prior to blood development).

Would there be any gain in saying someone was like a whitewashed tomb – beautiful in appearance but on the inside full of dead men’s bones?

Yeah, I quoted the WHO stats in my post on backstreet abortions a while back. http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/11/during-sherwin-hutchison-on-backstreet-abortion.html

Madeleine actually questioned Hutchinson stats on the panel but that part was edited out
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