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	<title>Comments on: Clearing the Air: A Church Leaders Forum on Climate Change</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymus</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2010/07/clearing-the-air-a-church-leaders-forum-on-climate-change.html#comment-92301</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I to have been told by my case manager to see Dr Otta, the appointment time did not work for me. So i used my initiative and rang his office myself to change the time that suited me best.. I then emailed my casemanager to ensure i left a paper trail so if something went wrong i had the evidence to back me up. I informed her that i had changed the date, in which she probably was not to happy about, however it was a tactic move on my part and she accepted. However since reading  this blog im not sure that i want to attend this appointment as i have a spinal cord injury on top of a pre exsisting condition which is degenerative. Im sensing that if i do see Dr Otta, the report will be of a disadvantage for me, which will then give Acc the power to discontinue my 80 per cent income. Acc have been told that they need to get an independent specialist by the National Reviewers to do an assesment. Acc hesitated when i suggested a specialist. Any advice or suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I to have been told by my case manager to see Dr Otta, the appointment time did not work for me. So i used my initiative and rang his office myself to change the time that suited me best.. I then emailed my casemanager to ensure i left a paper trail so if something went wrong i had the evidence to back me up. I informed her that i had changed the date, in which she probably was not to happy about, however it was a tactic move on my part and she accepted. However since reading  this blog im not sure that i want to attend this appointment as i have a spinal cord injury on top of a pre exsisting condition which is degenerative. Im sensing that if i do see Dr Otta, the report will be of a disadvantage for me, which will then give Acc the power to discontinue my 80 per cent income. Acc have been told that they need to get an independent specialist by the National Reviewers to do an assesment. Acc hesitated when i suggested a specialist. Any advice or suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Theology Geek NZ &#187; Epistemology 101: Clash of Authorities Part III</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2010/07/clearing-the-air-a-church-leaders-forum-on-climate-change.html#comment-70610</link>
		<dc:creator>Theology Geek NZ &#187; Epistemology 101: Clash of Authorities Part III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] three-part blog series is essentially the talk I gave at the recent Clearing the Air Forum, which was entitled “Discovering Truth in the Synthesis of Science and Faith.” The audience was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Theology Geek NZ &#187; Epistemology 101: Science, Faith and Authority Part II</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2010/07/clearing-the-air-a-church-leaders-forum-on-climate-change.html#comment-69233</link>
		<dc:creator>Theology Geek NZ &#187; Epistemology 101: Science, Faith and Authority Part II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] three-part blog series is essentially the talk I gave at the recent Clearing the Air Forum, which was entitled “Discovering Truth in the Synthesis of Science and Faith.” The audience was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Theology Geek NZ &#187; Epistemology 101: Science, Faith and Authority Part I</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2010/07/clearing-the-air-a-church-leaders-forum-on-climate-change.html#comment-68773</link>
		<dc:creator>Theology Geek NZ &#187; Epistemology 101: Science, Faith and Authority Part I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] three-part blog series is essentially the talk I gave at the recent Clearing the Air Forum, which was entitled “Discovering Truth in the Synthesis of Science and Faith.” The audience was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Applea</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2010/07/clearing-the-air-a-church-leaders-forum-on-climate-change.html#comment-65062</link>
		<dc:creator>Applea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disclaimer to my comments above:  I do share your concerns about the odds of this conference being not much more than naval gazing waffle about paganism due to the makeup of the New Zealand church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disclaimer to my comments above:  I do share your concerns about the odds of this conference being not much more than naval gazing waffle about paganism due to the makeup of the New Zealand church.</p>
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		<title>By: Applea</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2010/07/clearing-the-air-a-church-leaders-forum-on-climate-change.html#comment-65060</link>
		<dc:creator>Applea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don’t think willfully stealing from a population and pushing families into poverty because bogus lines of science and bogus policies stand to give you power and money puts anyone&#039;s immortal soul at risk then?

The scriptures and the Vatican have had quite a bit to say on how to treat the poor do they not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don’t think willfully stealing from a population and pushing families into poverty because bogus lines of science and bogus policies stand to give you power and money puts anyone&#8217;s immortal soul at risk then?</p>
<p>The scriptures and the Vatican have had quite a bit to say on how to treat the poor do they not?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2010/07/clearing-the-air-a-church-leaders-forum-on-climate-change.html#comment-64937</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrei, the same argument could be made about climate change. If certain activities harm the enviroment and others, then one puts ones &#039;immortal soul&#039; at risk. 

I am not saying I believe this, just pointing out that you can&#039;t dismiss it as easily as you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei, the same argument could be made about climate change. If certain activities harm the enviroment and others, then one puts ones &#8216;immortal soul&#8217; at risk. </p>
<p>I am not saying I believe this, just pointing out that you can&#8217;t dismiss it as easily as you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2010/07/clearing-the-air-a-church-leaders-forum-on-climate-change.html#comment-64884</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 07:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nobody’s immortal soul is threatened by “abortion” &lt;/i&gt;

You don&#039;t think wilful  violation the sixth (fifth for protestants) commandment  for personal convenience would put  your immortal soul in danger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nobody’s immortal soul is threatened by “abortion” </i></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t think wilful  violation the sixth (fifth for protestants) commandment  for personal convenience would put  your immortal soul in danger?</p>
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		<title>By: Applea</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2010/07/clearing-the-air-a-church-leaders-forum-on-climate-change.html#comment-64879</link>
		<dc:creator>Applea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody’s immortal soul is threatened by “abortion” either if you believe that all who die in the womb go straight to heaven, it doesn&#039;t stop most of us with a conservative theological bent having something to say about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody’s immortal soul is threatened by “abortion” either if you believe that all who die in the womb go straight to heaven, it doesn&#8217;t stop most of us with a conservative theological bent having something to say about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
		<link>http://www.mandm.org.nz/2010/07/clearing-the-air-a-church-leaders-forum-on-climate-change.html#comment-64870</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s try another tack 

How well did it work out when the Church got involved in the debate over Helio-centrism?

If Church leaders issue a joint communique on climate change they will just end up looking foolish - it is a worldly concern for worldly people.

Nobody&#039;s immortal soul is threatened by &quot;climate change&quot;  and  in the real world it is nothing but a wealth transfer system - a transfer from the poor to the rich.

As an individual you can take whatever position you choose but it is not an issue for the Church -  its a distraction sent by the adversary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s try another tack </p>
<p>How well did it work out when the Church got involved in the debate over Helio-centrism?</p>
<p>If Church leaders issue a joint communique on climate change they will just end up looking foolish &#8211; it is a worldly concern for worldly people.</p>
<p>Nobody&#8217;s immortal soul is threatened by &#8220;climate change&#8221;  and  in the real world it is nothing but a wealth transfer system &#8211; a transfer from the poor to the rich.</p>
<p>As an individual you can take whatever position you choose but it is not an issue for the Church &#8211;  its a distraction sent by the adversary.</p>
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