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		<title>The Special Votes Give a Seat to the Greens</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine (online)</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Special Votes have been counted, the official result of the New Zealand 2008 Election is in; see the effect they have made on the provisional results:
Final results in bold, (provisional results in brackets) 
National 44.93% (45.45%) &#8211; 58 (59) seatsLabour 33.99% (33.77%) &#8211; 43 seatsGreen 6.72% (6.43%) &#8211; 9 (8) seatsACT 3.65% (3.72%) &#8211; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Special Votes have been counted, the official result of the New Zealand 2008 Election is in; see the effect they have made on the provisional results:</p>
<blockquote><p>Final results in <strong>bold</strong>, (provisional results in brackets) </p>
<p>National <strong>44.93%</strong> (45.45%) &#8211; <strong>58</strong> (59) seats<br />Labour <strong>33.99%</strong> (33.77%) &#8211; <strong>43</strong> seats<br />Green <strong>6.72%</strong> (6.43%) &#8211; <strong>9</strong> (8) seats<br />ACT <strong>3.65%</strong> (3.72%) &#8211; <strong>5</strong> seats<br />Maori <strong>2.39%</strong> (2.24%) &#8211; <strong>5 </strong>seats (overhang)<br />Progressive <strong>0.91%</strong> (0.93%) &#8211; <strong>1</strong> seat<br />United Future <strong>0.87%</strong> (0.89%) &#8211; <strong>1</strong> seat </p>
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<p>Basically National loses a seat, the Greens gain one. What is with kiwi&#8217;s overseas and nostalgically voting Green? Its all right for them, they don&#8217;t have to live here.</p>
<p>No change to the reigns of power or anything dramatic as the confidence and supply agreements are more than adequate but as <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/11/final_2008_election_results.html">David Farrar said</a> on applying the St Lague formula: </p>
<blockquote><p>National was at massive risk of losing a second seat as they hold Spot 120. Labour are in 121. National’s quotient is 9160.0 while Labour’s quotient is 9159.5.</p>
<p>If Labour had 40 more voters turn up (that is less than one voter per seat), then Damien O’Connor would be back in Parliament and Aaron Gilmore would have missed out. Or if 22 people who voted National had voted Labour, then Labour would have 44 seats and National 57.</p>
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<p>This does raise the risk of Labour seeking a recount somewhat, though of course, there is no guarantee that&#8217;d help them.</p>
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		<title>Colin Espiner Eats his Words (Again)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine (online)</dc:creator>
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Colin Espiner really should be more careful about what he writes on his blog.
Though I must admit I love the irony of him having to eat his words; last election he shot his mouth off too.
Good on him for following through. He is talking about writing a book of recipes if enough people decide they [...]]]></description>
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<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/thepress/blogs/politics/2008/11/18/one-coalition-smoothie-down-the-hatch/">Colin Espiner</a> really should be more careful about what he writes on his blog.</p>
<p>Though I must admit I love the irony of him having to eat his words; last election he <a href="http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2006/08/christchurch-press-gives-madeleine.html">shot his mouth off</a> too.</p>
<p>Good on him for following through. He is talking about writing a book of recipes if enough people decide they would like to contribute so I have offered him my news-print paper, speed-kills sign.</p>
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		<title>The New Lineup</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine (online)</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new Cabinet has been announced:
John KeyPrime MinisterMinister of TourismMinisterial ServicesMinister in Charge of the NZ Security Intelligence ServiceMinister Responsible for the GCSB
Bill EnglishDeputy Prime MinisterMinister of FinanceMinister for Infrastructure
Gerry BrownleeLeader of the HouseMinister for Economic DevelopmentMinister of Energy and ResourcesAssociate Minister for the Rugby World Cup
Simon PowerDeputy Leader of the HouseMinister of JusticeMinister for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new Cabinet has been announced:</p>
<p><strong>John Key</strong><br />Prime Minister<br />Minister of Tourism<br />Ministerial Services<br />Minister in Charge of the NZ Security Intelligence Service<br />Minister Responsible for the <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">GCSB</span></p>
<p><strong>Bill English</strong><br />Deputy Prime Minister<br />Minister of Finance<br />Minister for Infrastructure</p>
<p><strong>Gerry <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">Brownlee</span></strong><br />Leader of the House<br />Minister for Economic Development<br />Minister of Energy and Resources<br />Associate Minister for the Rugby World Cup</p>
<p><strong>Simon Power</strong><br />Deputy Leader of the House<br />Minister of Justice<br />Minister for State Owned Enterprises<br />Minister of Commerce<br />Minister Responsible for the Law Commission<br />Associate Minister of Finance</p>
<p><strong>Tony <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">Ryall</span></strong><br />Minister of Health<br />Minister of State Services</p>
<p><strong>Nick Smith</strong><br />Minister for the Environment<br />Minister for Climate Change Issues<br />Minister for <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">ACC</span></p>
<p><strong>Judith Collins</strong><br />Minister of Police<br />Minister of Corrections<br />Minister of Veterans’ Affairs</p>
<p><strong>Anne <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">Tolley</span></strong><br />Minister of Education<br />Minister for Tertiary Education<br />Minister Responsible for the Education Review Office</p>
<p><strong>Christopher <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">Finlayson</span></strong><br />Attorney-General<br />Minister for Treaty of <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">Waitangi</span> Negotiations<br />Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage</p>
<p><strong>David Carter</strong><br />Minister of Agriculture<br />Minister for <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">Biosecurity</span><br />Minister of Forestry</p>
<p><strong>Murray <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">McCully</span></strong><br />Minister of Foreign Affairs<br />Minister for Sport and Recreation<br />Minister for the Rugby World Cup</p>
<p><strong>Tim <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9">Groser</span></strong><br />Minister of Trade<br />Minister of Conservation<br />Associate Minister of Foreign Affairs<br />Associate Minister for Climate Change Issues</p>
<p><strong>Wayne <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10">Mapp</span></strong><br />Minister of Defence<br />Minister of Research, Science and Technology<br />Associate Minister for Economic Development<br />Associate Minister for Tertiary Education</p>
<p><strong>Steven Joyce</strong><br />Minister of Transport<br />Minister for Communications and Information Technology<br />Associate Minister of Finance<br />Associate Minister for Infrastructure</p>
<p><strong>Georgina <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11">te</span> <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12">Heuheu</span></strong><br />Minister for Courts<br />Minister of Pacific Island Affairs<br />Minister for Disarmament and Arms Control<br />Associate Minister of Maori Affairs</p>
<p><strong>Paula Bennett</strong><br />Minister for Social Development and Employment<br />Minister for Disability Issues<br />Minister of Youth Affairs</p>
<p><strong>Phil <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13">Heatley</span></strong><br />Minister of Fisheries<br />Minister of Housing</p>
<p><strong>Pansy Wong</strong><br />Minister for Ethnic Affairs<br />Minister of Women’s Affairs<br />Associate Minister for <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14">ACC</span><br />Associate Minister of Energy and Resources</p>
<p><strong>Jonathan Coleman</strong><br />Minister of Immigration<br />Minister of Broadcasting<br />Associate Minister of Tourism<br />Associate Minister of Health</p>
<p><strong>Kate Wilkinson</strong><br />Minister of Labour<br />Minister for Food Safety<br />Associate Minister of Immigration</p>
<p><em>OUTSIDE CABINET:<br /></em><strong>Maurice Williamson</strong><br />Minister for Building and Construction<br />Minister of Customs<br />Minister of Statistics<br />Minister for Small Business</p>
<p><strong>Richard Worth</strong><br />Minister of Internal Affairs<br />Minister for Land Information<br />Minister Responsible for Archives New Zealand<br />Minister Responsible for the National Library<br />Associate Minister of Justice</p>
<p><strong>John Carter</strong><br />Minister of Civil Defence<br />Minister for Senior Citizens<br />Minister for Racing<br />Associate Minister of Local Government</p>
<p><strong>Rodney Hide</strong><br />Minister of Local Government<br />Minister for Regulatory Reform<br />Associate Minister of Commerce</p>
<p><strong>Heather Roy</strong><br />Minister of Consumer Affairs<br />Associate Minister of Defence<br />Associate Minister of Education</p>
<p><strong>Pita <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15">Sharples</span></strong><br />Minister of Maori Affairs<br />Associate Minister of Corrections<br />Associate Minister of Education</p>
<p><strong><span class="blsp-spelling-error">Tariana</span> <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17">Turia</span></strong><br />Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector<br />Associate Minister of Health<br />Associate Minister for Social Development and Employment</p>
<p><strong>Peter Dunne</strong><br />Minister of Revenue<br />Associate Minister of Health</p>
<p><em>SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE:</em><br />Lockwood Smith</p>
<p>I will not be giving stats on the number of women or breaking down the portfolios races as this is irrelevant; ministers should be chosen on the basis of their ability.</p>
<p>No major surprises really, the only thing I would comment on is the sheer number of portfolios on issues the government has no business touching or that are just dumb or paternalistic &#8211; women&#8217;s affairs is particularly grating as is broadcasting and arts, culture &amp; heritage and the rugby world cup? does the government really have to run that?</p>
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		<title>And United Future&#8217;s Baubles Are&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine (online)</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[National and United Future&#8217;s confidence and supply agreement is out.
Portfolios outside Cabinet:Peter Dunne gets Minister of Revenue and Associate Minister of Health.
Policy Concessions Include:

Maintain the policy, research and advocacy role of the Families Commission whilst seeking to achieve administrative efficiencies between the operations of the Families Commission and the Office of the Children’s Commissioner.
Reducing elective [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National and United Future&#8217;s <a href="http://www.national.org.nz/files/agreements/National-UF_agreement.pdf">confidence and supply agreement</a> is out.</p>
<p><em>Portfolios outside Cabinet:</em><br /><strong>Peter Dunne</strong> gets Minister of Revenue and Associate Minister of Health.</p>
<p><em>Policy Concessions Include:</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Maintain the policy, research and advocacy role of the Families Commission whilst seeking to achieve administrative efficiencies between the operations of the Families Commission and the Office of the Children’s Commissioner.</li>
<li>Reducing elective surgery waiting lists by greater utilisation of private hospital capacity, in a planned way where this cannot be met by the public hospital system;</li>
<li>Progressing the long-term medicines strategy for quality use of pharmaceuticals in the health sector, Medicines New Zealand, including the role <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">Pharmac</span> should play in that strategy. </li>
<li>Support Public Private Partnerships for major <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">roading</span> infrastructure developments where these are deemed to be the preferred options regionally and nationally, such as the Transmission Gully highway. </li>
<li>The government notes that United Future has been committed to income splitting as a key part of their tax policy and agrees to support appropriate legislation to First Reading in Parliament. </li>
<li>Proceed with the establishment of a Big Game Hunting Council as part of a national wild game management strategy with a view to it becoming a statutory authority. </li>
<li>And the government acknowledges United Future’s ongoing support and interest in the development of the Seniors’ Gold Card, the Community and Voluntary sector, and advancing the interests of the disability sector.</li>
</ul>
<p>Most of it is the usual centrist stuff *sigh* but I will comment of the standouts.</p>
<p>The Families Commission was a dumb idea and it has been a dumb <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">bureaucratic</span> nanny-state money-gobbler, just like the Children&#8217;s Commission, ever since. So ugh! to that policy.</p>
<p>Income splitting is a positive move to lowering taxes but it adds complexity to the tax laws and does not benefit enough people. Lowering the top tax rates as the government are planning to to 30% would make the need for income splitting largely redundant.</p>
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		<title>And the Maori Party gets&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine (online)</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[National and the Maori Party&#8217;s confidence and supply agreement is out.
Two Maori Party MP&#8217;s get portfolios outside Cabinet:Dr Sharples gets Maori Affairs Minister, Associate Education Minister and Associate Corrections Minister.Tariana Turia gets Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector, Associate Health Minister and Associate Social Development Minister.
Policy Concessions Include:

National offered a review of the Foreshore [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National and the <a href="http://www.national.org.nz/files/agreements/National-Maori_Party_agreement.pdf">Maori Party&#8217;s confidence and supply agreement</a> is out.</p>
<p><em>Two Maori Party MP&#8217;s get portfolios outside Cabinet:</em><br /><em></em><br /><strong>Dr Sharples</strong> gets Maori Affairs Minister, Associate Education Minister and Associate Corrections Minister.<br /><strong>Tariana Turia</strong> gets Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector, Associate Health Minister and Associate Social Development Minister.</p>
<p><em>Policy Concessions Include:</em>
<ul>
<li>National offered a review of the Foreshore and Seabed Act to see if was working and whether there were any better alternatives.</li>
<li>National will drop its opposition to the Maori seats and in turn, the Maori Party would drop its pursuit of entrenching the Maori seats and a group will be formed to look at constitutional issues including Maori representation.</li>
</ul>
<p>Good on the Maori Party for pushing the Foreshore and Seabed Act issue. It is a shame to see that National has not framed the issue in terms of the affront to due process and instead is talking about all New Zealander&#8217;s being able to access the beach, as if that is somehow more important than human rights.</p>
<p>I am relieved to see there is no deal to entrench the Maori seats. The status quo of race based representation is abhorrent enough.</p>
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		<title>The Deal is Signed: New Zealand Has a New Government</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine (online)</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The hoardings have barely had time to gather dust and National have just announced they have stitched up a deal with ACT, United Future and the Maori Party. Surely this is the fastest confidence and supply stitch up in the history of NZ MMP.
National and ACT&#8217;s confidence and supply agreement is available here online. Highlights [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hoardings have barely had time to gather dust and National have just announced they have stitched up a deal with <a href="http://www.act.org.nz/">ACT</a>, <a href="http://www.unitedfuture.org.nz/">United Future</a> and <a href="http://www.maoriparty.org/">the Maori Party</a>. Surely this is the fastest confidence and supply stitch up in the history of NZ <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">MMP</span>.</p>
<p>National and <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">ACT&#8217;s</span> <a href="http://www.national.org.nz/files/agreements/National-Act_Agreement.pdf">confidence and supply agreement is available here online</a>. Highlights are:</p>
<p><em>Two ACT <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">MP&#8217;s</span></span> get portfolios outside Cabinet:</em><br /><strong><a href="http://www.act.org.nz/rodney-hide">Rodney Hide</a></strong> gets: Minister of Local Government, Minister of Regulatory Reform, Associate Minister of Commerce and a member of the Cabinet Expenditure Control Committee.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.act.org.nz/heather-roy">Heather Roy</a></strong> gets: Minister of Consumer Affairs, Associate Minister of Defence and Associate Minister of Education.</p>
<p><em>Areas of Co-Operation Are:</em>
<ul>
<li>Law and Order</li>
<li>Climate Change</li>
<li>Controlling Government Expenditure</li>
<li>Tax</li>
<li>Regulation</li>
<li>Resource Management Act</li>
<li>Education</li>
</ul>
<p><em>Policy Concessions include:</em>
<ul>
<li>An advisory group to look at ways of closing the income gap with Australia by 2025 with the aim of stopping the exodus.</li>
<li>Pursuit of a sustained lift in New Zealand’s productivity growth rate to 3% a year or more and the establishment of a high quality advisory group to investigate the reasons for the recent decline in New Zealand’s productivity performance </li>
<li>National will, within 6 months, send ACT’s Taxpayer Rights Bill to the Finance and Expenditure Committee of Parliament as a government measure with the aim of passing into law a cap on the growth of core Crown expenses. </li>
<li><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">National agrees to introduce ACT&#8217;s &#8220;Three Strikes Bill&#8221; and support it to Select Committee.</span></span></li>
<li>The implementation of the Emissions Trading Scheme will be delayed until a review of New Zealand’s response on Climate Change with agreed draft terms of reference is completed, and the thermal generation ban will be repealed.</li>
<li>An agreement that a medium-term goal be set for the top rate of tax to be 30 percent so NZ has a government that will reward and celebrate success &#8211; not punish it.</li>
<li>National will explore the concept of a New Zealand Productivity Commission associated with the Productivity Commission in Australia in order to support the goals of higher productivity growth and improvements in the quality of regulation. </li>
<li>An agreement to work together over time to increase education choices so that pupils and families have more freedom to select schooling options that best meet the individual needs of their children.</li>
<li>Ongoing discussion is agreed to on ACT&#8217;s most excellent 20 point plan.</li>
</ul>
<p>Sounds promising. I was worried that Key’s pursuit of Dunne and the Maori Party meant something far more centrist would be announced. I dislike all the bureaucratic committees that will be funded and set up to talk about everything but hopefully something positive will come out of it. Its better than what we had anyway.</p>
<p>Details on United Future and the Maori Party&#8217;s baubles are yet to be announced &#8211; I hope the Maori Party have stood firm on some aspect of the Seabed and Foreshore as ACT should support them on that and there will be those in National who were appalled at that particular affront to due process too.</p>
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		<title>Just How Far Will the Left go?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine (online)</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all know the left will stop at nothing to win in politics; see what they did to Stephen Franks in Wellington Central &#8211; systematic election hoarding defacement, abuse on his blog (too numerous to link to any one example), You Tube videos twisting out of context comments into scary hate filled messages against Christians [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know the left will stop at nothing to win in politics; see what they did to <a href="http://www.stephenfranks.co.nz/">Stephen Franks</a> in Wellington Central &#8211; <a href="http://www.stephenfranks.co.nz/?p=1107">systematic election hoarding defacement</a>, abuse on his blog (too numerous to link to any one example), <a href="http://www.thestandard.org.nz/franks-and-teh-gays/#hide">You Tube videos twisting out of context comments into scary hate filled messages against Christians and gays</a> [<em>note it was only called homophobic</em>]. <a href="http://mandm.org.nz/">The threats and abuse we received for Fisking Grant Robertson</a>, the critique of the latter You Tube Video, to name a few examples from <em>one</em> electorate.</p>
<p>But <em>who</em> phones 111 when they realise, on election night, that the left have lost and that National will lead the country?!?!?</p>
<p>And WHY???!!??</p>
<p>What littany of lies and propaganda about the right would have had to have been put up such people by the left to make them do this? (or are they just incapable of understanding the political process and the policies of the right?)</p>
<p>Liberty Scott&#8217;s comments are on the button; extract from: <a href="http://libertyscott.blogspot.com/2008/11/what-did-leftwing-campaigners-tell-some.html#links"><span style="font-family:verdana;">What DID leftwing campaigners tell some people?</span></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4756635a11.html"><span style="font-family:verdana;">This report</span></a><span style="font-family:verdana;"> that some people rang the Police when the election results were coming through is alarming in several ways:</span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">1. That people thought their benefits would disappear because National was being elected. What sort of untrammelled nonsense have the left been spreading about such a situation? How despicable are those who promote such lies among people who are clearly rather unhinged? How many were persuaded to vote Labour or Green or else their benefits would dry up?</span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">2. What do people think the Police will do? Arrest John Key and Rodney Hide? Call an end to general elections? Do they think when things don&#8217;t go their way the Police should be called in? How scary is that?</span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">3. Most disconcerting is the helpless dependency of such people who think the only way forward is to remain dependent on money taken by force from others. How insipid has the welfare state become that there are people terrified at the prospect of having to earn themselves a living?</span><br /><span style="font-family:Verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">Sorry folks, it&#8217;s when the word Libertarianz replaces National that you might be worried, but by then the culture would have to have changed so radically that you wouldn&#8217;t be scared anymore.</span></p>
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		<title>The Impact of the Special Votes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine (online)</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sat down to work out how the special votes, which are yet to be counted, might impact the seats with the St Lague formula and saw David Farrar had already done it so I am going to be lazy and steal his post &#8211; I am tired, went to bed around 2am got up [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sat down to work out how the special votes, which are yet to be counted, might impact the seats with the St Lague formula and saw David Farrar had already done it so I am going to be lazy and steal his post &#8211; I am tired, went to bed around 2am got up at 6am &#8211; Sherry had a One Day Event this morning, they start early, and <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/search/label/Trogdor">Troggy</a> bit me, so my arm hurts when I type&#8230; anyway, hat tip <a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/">Kiwiblog</a>, taken from <a title="Permanent Link to What might happen on specials?" href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/11/what_might_happen_on_specials.html" rel="bookmark">What might happen on specials?</a></p>
<p>The allocation is:<br />
<blockquote>National 59<br />Labour 43<br />Greens 8<br />Maori 3 (+2 overhang)<br />United<br />Future 1<br />ACT 5</p></blockquote>
<p>Now who is most at risk from specials? They are the party that is in List Spot 120. And that is National.</p>
<p>The quotient for National is 951145/117 = 8129.4. And who is in spot 121? Labour with 706666/87 = 8122.6.</p>
<p>Very roughly if Labour pick up 600 more votes relative to National, then they get one more List MP, and National loses one. That is not at all impossible.</p>
<p>But could someone else grab it off National. The Greens have spot 124, being 134622/17 = 7918.9. They would need to gain an extra 3,600 votes (on top of their existing proportion of votes) from specials. That is a bit of an ask, but they have done well on special traditionally.</p>
<p>The next candidate on each relevant list is Conway Powell for National, Damien O’Connor for Labour and Kennedy Graham for the Greens.</p>
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		<title>Our Election Gathering</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine (online)</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So many people emailed me blue food suggestions and left comments that I feel compelled to give a review of our election gathering last night.
Despite efforts to be inclusive, my sister and brother-in-law preferring to manipulate visually impaired voters into voting Green instead (they had to take Rich&#8217;s mum to vote and teased me via [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many people emailed me blue food suggestions and left comments that I feel compelled to give a review of our <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2008/11/election-themed-food-dilemma/">election gathering last night</a>.</p>
<p>Despite efforts to be inclusive, my sister and brother-in-law preferring to manipulate visually impaired voters into voting Green instead (they had to take Rich&#8217;s mum to vote and teased me via text that they refused to take her unless she agreed to vote Green and that when they took her and she couldn&#8217;t see the ballot they voted Greens for her).</p>
<p>It was fair to say that our guests did not represent a cross section of the electorate, though a few brought offerings that suggested otherwise:</p>
<p><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5266463611949613714" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 242px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rjvWJELgJKE/SRY8wIzHApI/AAAAAAAAADw/QyPIZsdjVdM/s400/Strawberries.jpg" border="0" /> The bearers of the strawberries came in waving a Chris Carter pamphlet and a palm frond as a guesture of green peace and his wife brought a plate of green animal biscuits.</p>
<p>The offerings were pretty clever and they all tasted good too. On the table were:</p>
<p>[I have included the colours for the benefit of our overseas traffic]</p>
<p><em>Representing National (Blue and White)</em><br />Creme fraiche and blueberry tartlets drizzled with blue jelly<br />A bowl of blue jellybeans and white milk bottle lollies<br />Blue jelly and whipped cream &#8211; though I forgot about it and left it in the fridge</p>
<p><em>Representing ACT (Predominantly Yellow with a bit of Blue)</em><br />Banana muffins with blue icing<br />Chips and cheese and onion dip<br />Homemade pizza with dark olives (giving a bluey hue) and a thick layer of yellow cheese hiding the red tomato paste base (kinda clever as ACT formed out of a Labour Party split)<br />Mango chilly philly (which is yellow) with yellow crackers<br />Hot chips</p>
<p><em>Representing the Family Party (Yellow and Black)</em><br />Cashew nuts with raisins<br />Samosas (yellow outside, very dark filling)</p>
<p><em>Representing Labour (Red and White)</em><br />Strawberries and whipped cream<br />Tomato sauce (ketchup) for ACT&#8217;s chips</p>
<p><em>Representing the Greens (Green)</em><br />Green animal biscuits</p>
<p>It was all great conversation, good wine, lots of buzz and a great outcome but for Stephen Franks missing out &#8211; we all felt a bit deflated when we realised that he had missed both the List and Wellington Central.</p>
<p>What did everyone else get up to last night? How did you all pass the evening?</p>
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		<title>The Voting is Over</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine (online)</dc:creator>
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Curiablog&#8216;s final results: 
National 59 (46.8%)Labour 44 (34.6%)Green 10 (8.1%)ACT 3 (2.6%)Maori 4 (2.4%)United Future 1 (0.5%)Progressive 1 (0.2%)

There will be an overhang so the magic number to chase is a majority of 122 seats.
Most likely formulae are:

National+ACT+United Future = 63 seatsLabour+Prog+Greens = 55 seats
Other possibilities could happen. The next days will tell.
Of note: 

John [...]]]></description>
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<div><a href="http://curiablog.wordpress.com/" modo="false">Curiablog</a>&#8216;s final results: </div>
<blockquote><p>National 59 (46.8%)<br />Labour 44 (34.6%)<br />Green 10 (8.1%)<br />ACT 3 (2.6%)<br />Maori 4 (2.4%)<br />United Future 1 (0.5%)<br />Progressive 1 (0.2%)</p>
</blockquote>
<div>There will be an overhang so the magic number to chase is a majority of 122 seats.</p>
<p><em>Most likely formulae are:</em></div>
<div>
<blockquote>National+ACT+United Future = 63 seats<br />Labour+Prog+Greens = 55 seats</p></blockquote>
<p>Other possibilities could happen. The next days will tell.</p>
<p><em>Of note:</em> </div>
<ul>
<li>John Key is New Zealand&#8217;s new Prime Minister</li>
<li>Helen Clark is standing down</li>
<li>Labour will be in opposition with a new leader</li>
<li>NZ First and Winston Peters are gone</li>
<li>Roger Douglas is back</li>
<li>National List MPs include up to Conway Powell number 59</li>
<li>Labour List MPs include up to Stuart Nash number 36<em> </em></li>
</ul>
<p>(Special votes may affect some of the above a little)</p>
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