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		<title>Contra Mundum: Richard Dawkins and Open Mindedness</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bold statement “Richard Dawkins opens minds” leaped out at me from the newsletter sitting on the University  of Auckland’s Law Library counter. The article went on to sing the praises of Richard Dawkins and mentioned his book The God Delusion. On reading the piece one could be forgiven for concluding that Dawkins’ works [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">The bold statement “Richard Dawkins opens minds” leaped out at me from the newsletter sitting on the University  of Auckland’s Law Library counter. The article went on to sing the praises of Richard Dawkins and mentioned his book <em>The God Delusion</em>. On reading the piece one could be forgiven for concluding that Dawkins’ works are a paragon of the open minded assessment of ideas.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Now Dawkins is a Zoologist and I, not being a Zoologist, would not presume to assess his work on Zoology. What is interesting, however, is that much of Dawkins’ most famous work is not on Zoology; it is on Theology and specifically Philosophy of Religion. That field of Philosophy which critically analyses religious questions, such as, the veracity of arguments for and against God’s existence. Having some background in these fields I find it a little surprising that an Auckland University publication would contend that his work is open minded because it is evidently not.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In <em>The God Delusion</em> Dawkins’ main argument against the existence of God alludes to Fred Hoyle’s famous claim that the probability of something as complex as life evolving by blind chance was less likely than a fully-functional Boeing 747 being created by a hurricane blowing parts around in a junk yard. Dawkins writes, “However statistically improbable the entity you seek to explain by invoking a designer, the designer himself has got to be at least as improbable. God is the Ultimate Boeing 747.&#8221; Dawkins has made the same line of argument <em>elsewhere </em>“God, or any intelligent, decision-making calculating agent, is complex, which is another way of saying improbable.” In <em>The Blind Watchmaker</em> he argues,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>Once we are allowed simply to postulate organized complexity, if only the organized complexity of the DNA/protein replicating machine, it is relatively easy to invoke it as a generator of yet more organized complexity”. But of course any God capable of intelligently designing something as complex as the DNA/protein machine must have been at least as complex and organized as that machine itself.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">This argument contains three premises. First, that theism (belief in God) is justified by “postulating” God to explain the existence of organised complexity. Second that the God appealed to by theists is complex. Third, that the existence of complex beings are highly improbable. These lead to the conclusion that “God is the Ultimate Boeing 747” and hence “almost certainly does not exist”. The problem with this argument is that all three premises rest on caricatures and misunderstandings of contemporary theology and ignorance of contemporary philosophy of religion. I will explain.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Dawkins contends that God is postulated to explain organised complexity. There are two problems with this contention. First, Dawkins assumes that God is rationally believed only if his existence is inferred by some kind of argument for the best explanation of a given phenomenon. However, not all beliefs are justified on the basis of some kind of argument of this sort. Our belief in the existence of the past, our belief that it is wrong to rape, our belief that other people exist or that basic axioms of logic are true are not based on inferences to the best explanation. It is not that they are rationally believed because they explain some phenomena better than all alternatives, it is rather that these beliefs are part of the background data that we use to assess proposed explanations against. These things are true because we immediately experience them as true. I have the experience of remembering the existence of a past event. I intuitively perceive that rape is wrong. I experience the basic axioms of logic as self-evident and so on. Such beliefs are called properly-basic beliefs.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Since the late 1970’s an extremely important movement within Philosophy of Religion, known as the reformed epistemology movement, has offered detailed and rigorous defences of the contention that, for theists, belief in God can be properly-basic. This position has been defended by leading philosophers of religion such Alvin Plantinga, William Alston, Nicholas Wolterstorff, Peter Van Inwagen and others. Now, of course, it is possible that this movement is mistaken but Dawkins surely owes us an argument to this end as opposed to his simply assuming it and ignoring the counter evidence.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Second, among those theists who do defend God’s existence on the basis of some argument for the best explanation, very few do so on the basis that God explains “organized complexity”. Richard Swinburne, the leading proponent of such arguments, argues that God explains the existence of laws of nature, religious experience, the origin of the universe and the continued existence of the universe. Swinburne does not postulate God to explain “organised complexity”. Similarly, William Lane Craig, a leading defender of theism, suggests that God explains the origin of the universe, the existence of morality and the fine tuning of the laws of nature. Again, Craig makes no appeal to “organized complexity”. In 2009 <em>The Blackwell Companion to Natural Theology </em>was published which contains the most up to date versions of the 11 most definitive arguments used to defend the existence of God in the literature today. Not one of them involves an appeal to “organised complexity”. While the cogency of arguments for the existence of God that do not involve “organized complexity” remains open to substantive debate, it is undisputed that these arguments exist. Dawkins’ picture of God as a postulate to explain organised complexity is a crude caricature of theistic scholarship.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">To be fair Dawkins attempts to address some of these other arguments elsewhere in the book. However, here again much of his writing consists of caricature. He attacks five arguments proposed 800 years ago by Thomas Aquinas as being representative of the current case for theism and completely ignores the vastly more sophisticated and vigorous versions being defended in the literature today. Ironically, Dawkins quite severely misunderstands Aquinas’ arguments and attributes to him a position no Aquinas scholar would accept as accurate. However, even if his account were accurate, critiquing theism by attacking the arguments of one 12th century theologian is a bit like me attacking evolution on the basis of the evidence for it gathered in the 12th century and ignoring any of the scientific developments of the last 800 years. Such ineptitude would not be tolerated in the scientific world and should not be seen as <em>de rigueur </em>just because the topic is religion.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Dawkins’ second contention fares little better. Dawkins states that “A God capable of continuously monitoring and controlling the individual status of every particle in the universe <em>cannot</em> be simple” this seems to be because,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>The corners of God&#8217;s giant consciousness are simultaneously preoccupied with the doings and emotions and prayers of every single human being—and whatever intelligent aliens there might be on other planets in this and 100 billion other galaxies.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">There are several problems here. First, as Craig has noted, this confuses whether what God <em>thinks about</em> is complex with whether God<em> himself</em> is complex. Second, as Plantinga has noted, in <em>The</em> <em>Blind Watchmaker</em> Dawkins states that something is complex if it has parts that are &#8220;arranged in a way that is unlikely to have arisen by chance alone.&#8221; However, the concept of God employed by most theists is of an immaterial being that does <em>not</em> have material parts so by Dawkins’ own definition God is not complex (unless one assumes that God is a material being but theists almost unanimously maintain that God is an immaterial being).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This misrepresentation is made all the more pertinent by the fact that for centuries theists have been offering rigorous and sophisticated arguments that God is not in fact complex but is <em>simple</em>. While these arguments may not be successful, Dawkins still needs to actually provide reasons for rejecting them. To simply assert that God is to be conceived in a way that no one conceives Him and to ignore the numerous arguments to the contrary seem more like a child who asserts his position and then puts his hands over his ears and repeats “I am not listening” than it does a serious critical evaluation of another’s position.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Dawkins’ final contention, that the existence of complex beings is improbable, is similarly confused. Suppose one grants that God is “the Ultimate Boeing 747” and that God’s existence is as statically improbable as the complexity it is invoked to explain. Little in fact follows from this. This is because what is improbable in the Boeing 747 analogy is that the plane <em>came into existence by chance.</em> If God is “the Ultimate Boeing 747” then the conclusion to be drawn is only that it is improbable that God came into existence by chance. This, however, provides us with no reason for thinking that God does not exist. No theist holds that God came into existence by chance, theists hold that God is eternal. Here, again, Dawkins attacks a concept of God nobody holds to and hence is caught jousting with a straw-man.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">On examining Dawkins’ central argument what one discovers is not an open-minded, informed, careful examination of the contemporary debate over the existence of God. Nor does one find a carefully researched assessment of theism. Instead one finds Dawkins simply ignoring what theists mean by God. He ignores how they conceptualise God and ignores the arguments and discussions they have actually made. The theism Dawkins dismisses apparently assumes that God is a material being with parts, that He came into existence by chance and is postulated merely to explain organized complexity. The actual arguments proposed in defence of theism that have been put forward in the literature are not addressed at all.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Some Auckland University academics might consider such tactics to count as open-minded but I do not. In my view an open-minded honest assessment of religion requires accurately representing what theologians say and teach. It means endeavouring to read and understand their position and offer informed and critical responses to these positions. Ignorance and caricature is not open-minded scholarship.</p>
<p><em>I write a monthly column for <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.investigatemagazine.com');" href="http://www.investigatemagazine.com/newshop/enter.html">Investigate   Magazine</a> entitled Contra Mundum. This blog post was published in   the May 10 issue and is reproduced here with permission. Contra Mundum   is Latin for ‘against the world;’ the phrase is usually attributed to   Athanasius who was exiled for defending Christian orthodoxy.</em></p>
<p><em>Letters to the editor should be sent  to:  editorial@investigatemagazine.DELETE.com</em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian Auten of Apologetics 315 has run an essay series through the month of April on the topic &#8220;Why is Christianity True?&#8221; Brian has accepted 23 submissions from various apologetics  bloggers from around the world and has each day posted 1 essay in the series along with a podcast of each. At the end [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">Brian Auten of <a href="http://apologetics315.blogspot.com">Apologetics 315 </a>has run an essay series through the month of April on the topic &#8220;<a href="http://apologetics315.blogspot.com/2010/04/essay-series-is-christianity-true.html">Why is Christianity True?</a>&#8221; Brian has accepted 23 submissions from various apologetics  bloggers from around the world and has each day posted 1 essay in the series along with a podcast of each. At the end of the series a PDF ebook version of all the essays will be made  available.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Matt&#8217;s essay &#8220;<a href="http://apologetics315.blogspot.com/2010/04/essay-showing-christianity-is-true-by.html">Showing Christianity is True</a>&#8221; was selected to be the concluding essay and it too has been made into a podcast. To hear the podcast and join in the global discussion pop on over to Apologetics 315 (or you can read it below).</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Showing Christianity is True</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">“Can you show that Christianity is true?” To help us focus our thinking  as to how one should answer this question I will pose some other  questions as follows. Can you show that other people exist or that there  exists a world that endures independent of our senses, which continues  to exist when we no longer perceive it? Can my belief that it is wrong  to inflict pain on another person for no reason at all be shown as true?  What about my belief that Russell’s sceptical hypothesis that the whole  Universe came into existence six seconds ago, including all apparent  memories and signs of age – is this false or true?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I hope that the point of these examples is clear. Unless we want to fall  into a global scepticism that defies all common sense we have to  acknowledge that there are some beliefs which we hold rationally and  know are true that, nevertheless, cannot be shown or proven to be true  from premises that all intelligent people are required to accept. In  fact, somewhat ironically, the claim that one is only rational in  believing something unless it can be shown to be true from premises all  sane people are required to accept, is self-refuting; after all, many  sane people reject it and it has yet to be shown to be true from  premises that all sane people accept.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">However, one is rational in accepting some beliefs independent of any  argument showing the truth of those beliefs; philosophers term such  beliefs ‘properly basic beliefs.’ These beliefs typically function as  foundational beliefs, a person reasons <em>from</em> them as premises to  the truth of other propositions one holds. Similarly, they function as  the background data against which one assesses hypotheses proposed for  one’s acceptance. They arise because ongoing appeals to premises to  prove premises to prove premises have to end somewhere. Properly basic  beliefs constitute those beliefs where it is rational for the appeal for  proof to end.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It needs to be noted that properly basic beliefs are not groundless.  While one does not believe a basic belief based on an inference, basic  beliefs are often based on some form of experience. Alvin Plantinga  discerns two types of experience, “sensory evidence”, such things as  appearing to see, hear or feel a given object and “doxastic evidence”,  which he refers to as “the belief feels right, acceptable, natural.”1  Doxastic beliefs appear to be  self-evident. An example of such a belief is the corresponding  conditional of modus ponens. When one entertains the conditional of  modus ponens it just seems to be correct. Modus ponens seems  self-evident in a way that an overtly-fallacious inference does not. It  is this kind of experience that grounds basic beliefs.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Many philosophers and theologians such as Calvin, Pascal, Alston and  Plantinga hold that certain theological beliefs are properly basic. Belief in the existence of God  is, from the believer’s perspective, properly basic and grounded  directly in some form of religious experience; hence it is justified and  rational to believe these doctrines independently of any argument in  favour of them. Although I cannot elaborate it in a small article, I am  in fundamental agreement with this position. The request then that  Christians show or demonstrate that Christianity is true often relies on  an assumption that I think is mistaken; this assumption is that  rational Christian belief requires that arguments or proofs be provided  for Christianity and failure to provide them renders the believer  irrational.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There is another more moderate question which lurks in the  neighbourhood. If one grants that the believer is rational in accepting  Christian belief in a properly basic way then what reasons can the  believer give to those who do not hold to the same properly basic  beliefs for accepting Christian belief? Perhaps some people, on the  basis of some kind of religious experience, have immediate properly  basic beliefs but many people do not have this kind of experience – what  reason can be given to them for accepting the Christian faith? This  problem is exasperated by the fact that it is extremely difficult to  demonstrate the truth of foundational beliefs precisely because they are  foundational beliefs. To prove something one needs to appeal to  premises and the whole question in this instance is over what ultimate  premises to accept. How then would one show to these people that  Christianity is true?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I think several strategies are available but due to space I can only  briefly sketch them here.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">First, in many instances, one can show Christianity is true by rebutting  objections to Christian beliefs. Properly basic beliefs are beliefs  that one is rational in believing independently of any argument for them  in the absence of any good reasons for them. It does not follow,  however, that these beliefs cannot be defeated by reasons offered  against them.  If I see John screwing his face up and grasping his leg, I  might form the belief that John is in pain. However, if later John  tells me that he was not in pain but rather rehearsing his death scene  in a play he is acting in I might change my belief to believing that he  was not in pain. The initial belief that he was in pain was  properly-basic; however, because of what I later discovered, its  rational status was defeated.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I think many people stand in an analogous position to various Christian  beliefs; they reject them not because they do not see them to be true  but because they accept various objections to these beliefs. Consider  Richard Dawkins’ “All appearances to the contrary, the only watchmaker  in nature is the blind forces of physics, albeit deployed in a very  special way&#8230; it is the blind watchmaker.” What is interesting here is  the phrase, “all appearances to the contrary,” Dawkins admits that,  prima facie, the world appears and looks like it was designed and in the  absence of any reasons for denying design then the natural observation  is to say that it is. Dawkins suggests, however, that appearances are  deceiving because science has allegedly provided defeaters for this  belief. Showing Dawkins’ arguments are unsound in such a context enables  people to accept appearances.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The second line of argument is to show that various <em>alternatives</em> to Christianity are false. Often people fail to see the truth of  Christianity because they accept mistaken views of the world and  mistaken epistemic standards such as those associated with naturalism.  They may experience God’s presence in nature but believe this is an  illusion because they are convinced that nothing beyond nature exists.  They might think that only things which can be empirically demonstrated  can be rationally believed and these experiences are an illusion  fostered by evolution to ensure social co-operation. Showing that these  pictures of reality are false helps them to re-consider the veridical  nature of these experiences. Refuting alternatives to Christianity  provides another impetus for seeing the truth of Christianity.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">People have to live by some vision of the world. In terms of practice,  one cannot remain agnostic on many existential questions. If all the  viable alternatives to Christianity can be shown to be implausible then  Christianity has to be taken seriously by people who cannot, in  practice, live a life which suspends judgment on ultimate questions.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Third, even if a person does not accept a given proposition they can  still reason about such beliefs. One can reason “conditionally”,2  if one accepts certain premises  or propositions as properly basic beliefs. Then certain other positions,  hypotheses and theories are likely, and people from all sides of the  dispute can assess and debate whether the reasoning is cogent. Plantinga  notes,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>The conclusions of theistic science may not be <em>accepted</em> by non-theists, but the method &#8211; trying to see how best to explain the  relevant phenomena from a theistic perspective &#8211; is indeed open to all.3</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">One can show that  when one does reason from a theistic perspective then certain  existential and theoretical questions can be given coherent answers. One  can explain such things as the origin of the universe, the existence of  contingent beings, the existence and nature of moral obligation, the  existence of laws of nature, existential questions about guilt and  forgiveness and so on. Plantinga notes that the existence of God imports  a “great deal of unity into the philosophic endeavor, and the idea of  God helps with an astonishingly wide variety of cases: epistemological,  ontological, ethical, having to do with meaning, and the like of that.”4 Showing that if one accepts  theism, then plausible, defensible, comprehensive and unified answers  are available to what would otherwise be intractable questions, provides  one way of showing others why they should accept belief in God as a  properly basic belief.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The fourth and final way is to put a person in a position where that  person is likely to have the requisite experience that grounds properly  basic theological beliefs. Suppose I see a tree in the park and my wife  asks me to show her that this tree exists. The obvious way to do so is  not to construct a proof of the existence of a tree but to take her to a  park and show her it. Similarly, many people fail to grasp self-evident  axioms of logic because they fail to understand them, but when these  are explained to them they become self-evident. The same is true with  Christian belief. One way to show agnostics the truth of Christianity is  to put them into circumstances where, if they are attentive, they are  likely to start seeing the truth.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">One can explain the scriptures to them, encourage them to seek God in  prayer – this is analogous to the way a person lost in the bush might  call out to a rescuer even if he or she were unsure anyone was searching  for him or her. One can encourage them to engage in the study of the  scriptures whilst taking seriously the possibility that they are the  word of God. The person could get involved in a community of believers  where God dwells and works, where the person could be encouraged to live  in accord with the moral law and honestly confess their failings and  seek forgiveness for their moral errors. Pascal made this point in his  famous wager; while an agnostic cannot simply choose to believe  something he does not believe, he or she can choose to look, to seek and  to understand. When the agnostic sincerely does so, it is likely that  he or she will come to experience God. Just as a person who attempts to  understand logic will see why its axioms are self-evident or a person  who actually looks in the park will see that there is a tree there.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In conclusion the basic doctrines of Christianity, if true, constitute  properly basic foundational beliefs. One does not believe them on the  basis of argument or proof as they are grounded directly in experience.  Typically it is very difficult to prove with argument that a  foundational belief is true; however their truth can be shown in other  indirect ways. One can argue that the arguments against such beliefs are  false, one can argue that the alternatives to accepting them are false  or problematic, and one can show that if one accepts Christianity then  these beliefs make coherent sense out of the world, they provide  comprehensive answers to many theoretical and existential questions.  Finally, in the context of all of the above, one can assist the sceptic  to adopt the stance of a sincere seeker; to get him to put him or  herself into the kind of position where he or she can come to have the  requisite encounter with God so as to see that Christianity is true.  This is ultimately how one shows that Christianity is true.<br />
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 1 Alvin Plantinga <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Warranted-Christian-Belief-Alvin-Plantinga/dp/0195131932?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=apologetics31-20&amp;link_code=btl&amp;camp=213689&amp;creative=392969" target="_blank">Warranted Christian Belief</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=apologetics31-20&amp;l=btl&amp;camp=213689&amp;creative=392969&amp;o=1&amp;a=0195131932" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></em> (New  York: Oxford University Press, 2000) 110-111.<br />
 2 See Alvin Plantinga “Creation and Evolution: A Modest Proposal” in  Darwinism Design and Public Education ed John Angus Campbell &amp;  Stephen C Meyer (East Lansing: Michigan State University Press, 2004)  521-232; “Reason and Scripture Scholarship” in <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Behind-Text-Interpretation-Scripture-Hermeneutics/dp/031023414X?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=apologetics31-20&amp;link_code=btl&amp;camp=213689&amp;creative=392969" target="_blank">Behind the Text: History and Biblical Interpretation</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=apologetics31-20&amp;l=btl&amp;camp=213689&amp;creative=392969&amp;o=1&amp;a=031023414X" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></em> ed C  Bartholomew, C Stephen. Evans, Mary Healy &amp; Murray Rae (Grand  Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2003) 98-100.<br />
 3 Alvin Plantinga “On Rejecting The Theory of Common Ancestry: A Reply  to Hasker” Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith 44 (December  1992): 258-263.<br />
 4 Alvin Plantinga “<a href="http://philofreligion.homestead.com/files/theisticarguments.html%20">Two  Dozen or so Theistic Arguments</a>” accessed 7 March 2010.</span></p>
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		<title>Rest in Peace William Alston</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">Philosopher William Alston died peacefully in his home in Jamestown  New York on 13 September 2009  aged 87; he had  been diagnosed with  pancreatic cancer just a  week earlier.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Many of my readers will not know but Alston was one of  the leading contemporary Christian Philosophers of the last fifty years. I discovered his  writings while studying philosophy at the University of Waikato and have always found  his discussions to be perceptive and insightful.  Alongside others such as  Plantinga and Wolterstorff, Alston was one of my early Philosophical heroes and  continues to be so.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">He wrote  several excellent works in the area of epistemology and later turned his  talents to contributing to the emergence of the Reformed Epistemology movement,  which argues that belief in God can, in certain contexts, be properly basic: justified  in the absence of any inference or argument for theism&#8217;s truth. Alston developed  these insights in his ground breaking work <em>Percieving God</em> where he defended the  rational status of mystic and religious experience, arguably one of the most  significant discussions of the epistemology of religious experience since  William James.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Alston published  several important essays on religious language;  critiques of the problem of evil, an excellent  defence of the concept of divine action in the world,  an interesting  discussion on divine command theories of ethics and an inspiring spiritual auto-biography on his conversion to Christianity is published in<em> God and the Philosophers: The Reconciliation of Faith and Reason</em>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Alston’s work has influenced the current generation of Philosophers of Religion including, William Row, Alvin Plantinga, Robert  Audi, George  Mavrodes, William Wainwright, Daniel Howard-Snyder (who has on-line  both a <a title="blocked::http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~howardd/alston/alstonforthoemmes.pdf" href="http://www.ac.wwu.edu/%7Ehowardd/alston/alstonforthoemmes.pdf">biography</a> of Prof. Alston and a <a title="blocked::http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~howardd/alston/bibliographies/writingsbyalston/writingsbyalston.htm" href="http://www.ac.wwu.edu/%7Ehowardd/alston/bibliographies/writingsbyalston/writingsbyalston.htm">bibliography</a> of his writings) and a number of others.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Alston will be  sorely missed. May he rest in peace. May the grace and peace of God be with his family and friends.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>Hat tip: </em><a href="http://christiantheist.wordpress.com">Christian Theist</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does Evolution make belief in God untenable? At the recent conference, Faithful Science? – Just How Well Do Science and Faith Get Along? I presented a paper examining this question.[1] This blog series has grown from that paper and the discussions I had with the theologians and scientists in attendance at the conference.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div align="justify">Does Evolution make belief in God untenable? At the recent conference, <i><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Cc1PPzxfdew/SmqLsT8btfI/AAAAAAAAAEE/g6qIMeZdDs4/s400/TANSA.jpg">Faithful Science? – Just How Well Do Science and Faith Get Along?</a></i> I presented a paper examining this question.<a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1">[1]</a> This blog series has grown from that paper and the discussions I had with the theologians and scientists in attendance at the conference.</p>
<p>It is commonly argued that darwinian evolution renders belief in God rationally untenable because it refutes the teleological argument, commonly referred to as the argument from design. Darwin himself suggested this in his autobiography; </p></div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">The old argument of design in nature, as given by Paley, which formerly seemed to me so conclusive, fails, now that the law of natural selection had been discovered. We can no longer argue that, for instance, the beautiful hinge of a bivalve shell must have been made by an intelligent being, like the hinge of a door by man. There seems to be no more design in the variability of organic beings and in the action of natural selection, than in the course which the wind blows. Everything in nature is the result of fixed laws.<a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2">[2]</a></p>
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<div align="justify">John Dupre adds, “Darwinism undermines the only remotely plausible reason for believing in God.”<a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3">[3]</a></p>
<p>However, this purported refutation of theism is far too quick for several reasons. First, the claim that darwinian evolution refutes <em>the</em> teleological argument is false. There are several different versions of teleological arguments. What is arguably true is that it undercuts <i>one particular version</i>, that proposed by William Paley in <i>Natural Theology</i>. Although, in a recent study Del Ratzsch has suggested Paley’s argument has in fact been misunderstood and when these misunderstandings are stripped away it is not clear that discovery of the laws of natural selection do refute it.<a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4">[4]</a> Nevertheless, to rebut one particular teleological argument is not to undercut them all.</p>
<p>To justify the inference that darwinian evolution refutes teleological arguments one would need to show that darwinian evolution provides grounds for rejecting <i>all</i> such arguments. It does not. If one focuses on the contemporary literature, it is evident that there are currently several teleological arguments from design that are untouched by darwinism which are being seriously defended in the literature. These arguments may or may not be sound but whether they are or not has nothing to with darwinian evolution.</p>
<p>Two examples will suffice to illustrate this; the first is the teleological argument proposed and defended by Richard Swinburne in <i>The Existence of God</i>. Swinburne proposed an inductive teleological argument based on “The orderliness of the universe.” Swinburne elaborates what he means by this; </div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">The temporal order of the universe is, to the man who bothers to give it a moment’s thought, an overwhelmingly striking fact about it. Regularities of succession are all pervasive. For simple laws govern almost all successions of events. In books of physics, chemistry, and biology we can learn how almost everything in the world behaves. The laws of their behavior can be set out by relatively simple formulae which men can understand and by means of which they can successfully predict the future. The orderliness of the universe to which I draw attention here is its conformity to formula, to simple, for mutable, scientific laws. The orderliness of the universe in this respect is a very striking fact about it. The universe might so naturally have been chaotic, but it is not—it is very orderly.</p>
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<div align="justify">Swinburne argues that theism explains this order and that its existence increases theism’s probability. Regardless of the merits of Swinburne’s argument, it is evident that darwinian evolution does not refute it. This is because darwinism, far from explaining away such laws, actually <i>assumes</i> their existence;</div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">Evolution can only have taken place, given certain special natural laws. These are first, the chemical laws stating how under certain circumstances inorganic molecules combine to make organic ones, and organic ones combine to make organisms. And secondly, there are the biological laws of evolution stating how organisms have very many offspring, some of which vary in one or more characteristics from their parents, and how some of these characteristics are passed on to most offspring, from which it follows that, given shortage of food and other environmental needs, there will be competition for survival, in which the fittest will survive.</p>
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<div align="justify">The second example is the teleological argument defended more recently by Robin Collins. Robin Collins appeals to the existence of what has been dubbed cosmic fine-tuning, the contention that, “Almost everything about the basic structure of the universe&#8211;for example, the fundamental laws and parameters of physics and the initial distribution of matter and energy&#8211;is balanced on a razor’s edge for life to occur.”<a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn5" name="_ftnref5">[5]</a> Frances Collins explains that for life to evolve there are around 15 constants necessary, each must have precise values and if they were off by a million or one in a million, life could not evolve.<a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn6" name="_ftnref6">[6]</a> Robin Collins argues that this fine-tuning is significantly more probable if theism is true than if atheism is true and hence confirms theism over atheism.</p>
<p>I do not here wish to go defend (or criticise) this argument in any depth, my point is simply that darwinian evolution does not refute it. This is because the cosmic fine-tuning argument appeals to the conditions needed for life to evolve. The fine-tuning both Collins’ refer to are preconditions for the evolution of life to occur. As they are preconditions, evolution can hardly provide an explanation for this at all; even if it could, it is not clear that this would show that the probability of such fine-tuning occurring if atheism were true is as probable as it occurring on the background hypothesis of theism’s truth.</p>
<p>Hence, darwinian evolution does not undercut teleological arguments. It is worth noting that even it did then the conclusion that Dupre and Darwin draw, that theism is rationally unwarranted, does not follow. Even if all versions of teleological arguments were refuted by Darwin, it does not follow that <i>all</i> the other arguments for God’s existence are undercut; even if they were, it could be the case that belief in God is justified independently of any argument. Let me briefly elaborate on both these ideas.</p>
<p>The first, Dupre’s suggestion that the argument from design is <i>the only plausible</i> ground for believing in God, is simply false. In <i>Two Dozen or So Theistic Arguments</i> Alvin Plantinga sketched 26 arguments for God’s existence currently being defended in the literature. Earlier this year, Blackwell published the <i>Blackwell Encyclopaedia to Natural Theology</i> which contains current versions of 11 arguments used to defend the existence of God in the literature today. While the cogency of these arguments remains, like most philosophical claims, a subject of substantive debate it is undisputed that they exist and have been give serious and sophisticated advocacy from competent philosophers. To rebut them then requires serious philosophical argument not assertion.</p>
<p>The suggestion then that a refutation of all teleological arguments dismantles the case for theism is false. A true refutation of the plausible grounds for theism would involve a detailed rebuttal of all of the arguments for theism, not just commentary on one type.</p>
<p>Even if it were the case that teleological arguments were the only arguments for the existence of God, it does not follow that their failure would undercut the rational acceptability of theism. Such an assertion assumes that theism is rationally justified only if there is a good argument for it. It is widely acknowledged in epistemology that not all beliefs need to be demonstrated by argument to be rational. To claim they do creates a regress problem; </p></div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">If everything needs to be proven then the premises of every proof would need to be proven. But if you need a proof for every proof, you need a proof for your proof, and a proof for your proof of a proof and so on-forever. Thus it makes no sense to demand that everything be proven because an infinite regress of proofs is impossible.<a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn7" name="_ftnref7">[7]</a></p>
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<div align="justify">To avoid this problem an influential movement in epistemology known as foundationalism maintains that at the base or foundation of one’s noetic structure are beliefs that one is justified in believing independently of any argument. These are called properly basic beliefs. Since the late 1970’s an extremely important movement within Philosophy of Religion, known as the reformed epistemology movement, has offered detailed and rigorous defences of the contention that for theists, belief in God can be a properly-basic belief. The most important defender of this position is Alvin Plantinga, though many others such as William Alston and Nicholas Wolterstorff have defended similar views. Plantinga notes the implication of this movement, “The demise of the teleological argument, if indeed evolution has compromised it, is little more of a threat to rational belief in God than the demise of the argument from analogy for other minds is to rational belief in other minds.”<a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn8" name="_ftnref8">[8]</a></p>
<p>It seems then that the claim that evolution undercuts teleological arguments is a non starter. Even if it were true, this conclusion only has significance if all other arguments for God’s existence are also refuted and an argument can be provided that shows that belief in God is not properly-basic. This would require significant philosophical work, over and above, any appeal to natural selection. It is evident then that by itself, darwinian evolution would prove very little except, at best, that one 19th century argument by Paley might be unsuccessful.</p>
<p><a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"><span style="font-size:85%;">[1]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> I am grateful to Alvin Plantinga who sent me a copy of his unpublished paper, “Science and Religion: Where Does the Conflict Really Lie?” which was extremely helpful in formulating my thoughts.<br /></span><a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2"><span style="font-size:85%;">[2]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Charles Darwin <i>Life and Letters of Charles Darwin</i> ed Francis Darwin (NY: D. Appleton, 1887) Vol. 1 279.<br /></span><a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref3" name="_ftn3"><span style="font-size:85%;">[3]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> John Dupre <i>Darwin’s Legacy</i> (New York: Oxford University Press, 2003) 56.<br /></span><a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref4" name="_ftn4"><span style="font-size:85%;">[4]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Del Ratzsch <i><a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/teleological-arguments/">Teleological Arguments for God&#8217;s Existence</a></i> Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.<br /></span><a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref5" name="_ftn5"><span style="font-size:85%;">[5]</span></a> <span style="font-size:85%;">Robin Collins “</span><a href="http://home.messiah.edu/%7Ercollins/Fine-tuning/Revised%20Version%20of%20Fine-tuning%20for%20anthology.doc"><span style="font-size:85%;">God, Design, and Fine-Tuning</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">” originally published in <i>God Matters: Readings in the Philosophy of Religion</i> eds Raymond Martin and Christopher Bernard (New York: Longman Press, 2002).<br /></span><a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref6" name="_ftn6"><span style="font-size:85%;">[6]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Frances Collins </span><i><span style="font-size:85%;">The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for the Existence of God (Free Press, 2006) 75.<br /></span><a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref7" name="_ftn7"><span style="font-size:85%;">[7]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Roy Clouser <i>Knowing With the Heart</i> (IVP, Downers Grove, 1999) 69.<br /></span><a style="" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref8" name="_ftn8"><span style="font-size:85%;">[8]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Alvin Plantinga “Science and Religion: Where Does the Conflict Really Lie?” (unpublished).</p>
<p></span></i><span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:85%;" >RELATED POSTS:</span><a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/08/darwinian-evolution-chance-and-design"><br />Darwinian Evolution, Chance and Design </a></div>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div align="justify">Ken Perrott, at Open Parachute, took issue with some comments I made in my recent <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/06/evolution-should-not-be-taught-in-state-schools-a-defence-of-plantinga-part-i-2/">defence of Plantinga’s stance on Evolution being taught in state schools</a>. To gain focus let’s look at one thing I said to Ken in the comments section on that post, </div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">If the relevant evidence points towards a theory it does not follow that all the evidence points towards it. That’s because there might be evidence which science does not consider, such as theological claims, that are relevant.”</p>
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<div align="justify">I went on to say </div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">&#8230;on many issues the relevant scientific evidence is the only evidence, but on questions of origins that is not the case. The question of our origins is both a scientific and theological question so a correct examination of the issue will take into account <i>both</i> the theological and scientific evidence that is relevant to the question. To teach evolution is the true theory of origins one would have to show it is probable on all relevant evidence, and seeing science excludes relevant theological evidence from the discussion it cannot claim to have shown it’s true on all relevant evidence.</p>
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<div align="justify">Central to this argument is a distinction between all the relevant <i>scientific</i> evidence and all the relevant <i>total evidence</i>. The argument assumes that science, while a reliable method of gaining truth in many areas, is not the only source of reliable information we have about the world, that on certain topics we can also discover truths about the world through faith and revelation; hence, on these topics an accurate view of the world must utilise <i>both</i> sources of information.</p>
<p>Ken was clearly displeased with this statement and labeled it the “<a href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/different-ways-of-knowing/">other ways of knowing argument</a>.” On his own site he asked me to respond to his criticisms; I will do so below.</p>
<p>1. Much of Ken’s response to this appears to be based on a failure to grasp what I actually said. In the above citation I did not say that evolution was not true nor did I say evolution was not probable on all the relevant evidence. Everything I have said is entirely compatible with theistic evolution, where a person comes to a position based <i>both</i> on the scientific evidence <i>and</i> the theological reflection. I did not say, as Ken repeatedly attributes to me, that “theology trumps science” or that theological reflection is more reliable than science. What I said was that a theory which is probable on <i>all</i> the evidence, that is all the theological <i>and</i> all the scientific evidence, <i>taken together</i>, should be believed over a theory which is only probable on the scientific evidence <i>alone</i>. I also maintain the opposite is true; a theory which is probable on all relevant evidence, drawn from <i>both</i> theology and <i>science</i> should be believed over a theory which is supported by theological considerations alone.</p>
<p>The issue then, is not that one discipline “trumps another,” it is that a theory is not worthy of consent unless it takes into account all the relevant information from <i>both</i> disciplines. I think that theological and scientific reflections are both reliable methods and our interpretation of both the theological and empirical data can be fallible.</p>
<p>These clarifications address an awful lot of Ken’s argument such as his statement, “To assert today that we should revert to a pre-scientific era, that theology or philosophy should trump scientific knowledge, is to claim that mythology/logic/reason is more reliable than evidence.” Given that I never said that theology should trump science, this statement is irrelevant.</p>
<p>Similarly, Ken’s claim that my position “is consistent with the <a title="Wedge strategy" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_strategy">Wedge strategy</a>” is misleading. While it is true that my position is consistent with creationism, as I note above, it is also consistent with evolutionary theory. Contrary to what Ken thinks, the mere fact that two views are consistent provides no basis for linking the views together in a kind of guilt by association argument. Creationism is, after all, consistent with the view that Wellington is the capital of New Zealand; however, this does not mean that everyone who claims that Wellington is the capital believes that the world was created in six 24-hour days. Consider a less palatable example; Hitler’s belief in the superiority of the Aryan race is consistent with the claim that there is a city called Cairo this does not mean that anyone who remembers visiting Cairo is a Nazi.</p>
<p>2. Ken’s response also appears marred by a failure to adequately understand the meaning of some philosophical terms I use. In the above citation I use the word “true,” Ken says, in response to my use of it, that “the word [truth] means different things to theologians, scientists and people on the street.” In fact, in the above citation I am using the standard Aristotelian concept of truth which is common to both disciplines. Aristotle stated, “To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false, while to say of what is that it is, and of what is not that it is not, is true.” By this definition the claim that the earth is round is true if the earth is, in fact, actually round, and it is false if the earth is, in fact, not round. Similarly in theology, the claim that God created the world <i>ex nihilo</i> is true if there is, in fact, a God and he did, in fact, create the physical universe out of nothing a finite period of time ago.</p>
<p>Ken seems similarly confused about the meaning of the word “logic” and goes to great lengths to assert that “logic must follow evidence.” However, this simply shows he does not understand logic; logic is the study of rules of inference, that is, logic tells one how to deduce conclusions from evidence. Once this is realised, the claim that logic should follow evidence makes no sense. One cannot deduce or infer anything from evidence without logic in the first place.</p>
<p>Similarly Ken’s suggestion that science is more reliable than logic is questionable. Science utilises logic to infer its conclusions from the empirical data; logic, therefore, is a presupposition of science that science needs if science is to conclude anything. Moreover, some axioms of logic clearly are more certain and reliable than many empirical claims, the claim, for example, that <i>Both A</i> and <i>Not A</i> cannot both be true, in the same sense, at the same time is more certain that speculations about how first life arose. Similarly with the rule <i>modus tollens</i>, something of which we can be relatively certain, which states: if A, then B, not B, therefore, not A.</p>
<p>3. Putting aside these misinterpretations and philosophical mistakes, Ken’s main objection is, </p></div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">Implicit in the <i>“different ways of knowing”</i> argument, and hinted at by Matt in his comments, is the desire to change the science process to include theological “evidence” and claims that are not based on, or tested by, evidence. To give theology a “free pass.”</p>
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<div align="justify">Elsewhere he claims, </div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">It’s claiming a logic or justification for the theist belief without allowing the normal checking that should go with knowledge claims.”</p>
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<div align="justify">Here Ken raises a fairly standard argument: </div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">[1] that scientific claims differ from theological claims in that the former are empirically testable and the latter are not; [2] lack of testability disqualifies theological claims from being taken into account in theorising about the world.</p>
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<div align="justify">This argument is problematic and has been refuted numerous times in the literature; here I can be brief. Turning to [1] Larry Laudan notes “It is now widely acknowledged that many scientific claims are not testable in isolation, but only when embedded in part of a larger system of statements, some of whose consequences can be submitted to test.”<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1">[1]</a> Take the claim that there is at least one electron in the universe. To test the truth of this claim we would need a theory about how electrons act under various conditions, what their predicted effects upon things would be and theories about how one could detect these effects if they occur and so on. Only with this kind of background information can we can use the relevant tools to test the predictions; however, in isolation, the claim that there is at least one electron is untestable.<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2">[2]</a></p>
<p>Second, many theological claims are testable in precisely the same way. Take the claim made by Archbishop Usher that the world was created 6000 years ago. This claim is testable; we can muster empirical evidence to assess the age of the earth. The same is true for other theological claims; take the claim, for example, that the cosmos had a beginning in time, an implication of the theological views of St Augustine or that the universe is governed by laws that can only be discovered by empirical means, an implication of the voluntarist theology of the late middle ages or the claim made by 14th-15th century theologians that, contrary to some interpretations of Aristotlian physics, God did make the universe such that the earth orbited the sun or Augustine’s claim that God created the world with seed principles, via which, the whole creation of the universe could unfound over time or Bonaventure’s theologically based contention that the cosmology of his day was mistaken in claiming that the universe was infinitely old.</p>
<p>Turning to [2] the suggestion that only testable claims can be utilised in answering a question about the world is also questionable. Ethical statements, such as, “it is wrong to cause pain just for entertainment” cannot be, by themselves, empirically tested yet in answering many questions about what we ought to do it is impossible to get an answer without appealing to them. Moreover, one cannot empirically test anything without presupposing some truths that themselves cannot be empirically established. Hume showed for example that it is impossible to non- circularly justify the reliability of inductive reasoning. William Alston has argued persuasively that one cannot empirically verify the reliability of one’s senses (the reason for this is quite obvious, to empirically demonstrate anything one needs to use one’s senses, and hence, one needs to presuppose the reliability of the source one is trying to prove the reliability of). It is hard to even conceive of a situation where basic axioms of logic, such as the law of non-contradiction, could be observably false. Yet science proceeds by presupposing the reliability of the senses, the reliability of inductive reasoning and the rules of logic.</p>
<p>Ken’s central argument then is mistaken. His other arguments fair no better, such as his attempt to try to link my position with Stalinism; </p></div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">So what would the trumping of science by theology/philosophy be like? We have seen some disastrous examples. Such as Stalin’s promotion of Lysenko, trumping of science by Stalinist interpretations of Marxism-Leninism. This put Soviet genetic science back many years and led to the death and persecution of many scientists. In many ways the current theological/creationist/wedge attack on science is of a similar ilk to Stalinism.</p>
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<div align="justify">Apart from the fact that I did not espouse creationism or claim that theology trumps science, Ken here seems to think that telling state schools that they can teach a theory is true , as opposed to merely saying that it is the best scientific theory, is akin to arresting scientists, censoring their research, persecuting and executing them!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this logic can be turned on its head as the same logic would entail that refusal to teach Christian theology as the truth in state schools is akin to persecuting Christian theologians, censoring their research, persecuting them and executing them; hence, any atheist who objects to their children being taught religion at a state school is advocating some kind of quasi-Stalinist policy.</p>
<p>Somewhat ironically, however, Ken makes some claims that if taken seriously suggest he is not adverse to religious persecution. Ken states that, </p></div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">He [Matt] argues that teaching evolution is actually teaching <i>“fundamentalist children that their religious beliefs are false.”</i> Well, of course that is a problem for fundamentalism, not science. We cannot ignore reality because some silly people are offended by it.</p>
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<div align="justify">Ken here implies that state schools should teach that a particular religious perspective is false if “that’s reality.” In other words, <i>if a person’s religious beliefs really are false then it is not unjust for the state to teach this</i>.</p>
<p>Now as I stated in my original post and as I have repeated several times in correspondence with Ken, this argument is problematic. Both Ken and I agree that Islam is false, that Mohammad is not a prophet. If Ken’s claims were correct then, justice would require that the government run re-education programs for Muslim students telling them that Mohammad is not a prophet. After all, as Ken grants, “this is reality” and the religious sensibilities of other people cannot justify not teaching reality.</p>
<p>Ken’s second argument is that to fail to tell children that evolution is true is “child abuse.” As I pointed out, however, if this were true then the many Muslim, Christian and Jewish parents who home school their kids with creationist texts or send their kids to private schools where creationism is taught should be arrested, charged with child abuse and punished at law on par with child abusers; further, their children should be placed in state care and sent to state re-education centres. The logical implication of both Ken’s arguments is religious persecution.</p>
<p>Now I pointed both these points out to Ken when he raised them in previous discussions. Ken’s response was to apparently ignore the response and just repeat the argument. This, however, is not a rational response at all; simply repeating the same mantra over and over does not make it true.</p>
<p><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"><span style="font-size:85%;">[1]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Larry Laudan “</span><a href="http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&amp;q=cache:-6txj7tzZf8J:faculty.washington.edu/lynnhank/Laudan.pdf+Larry+Laudan%2BScience+at+the+Bar&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=nz"><span style="font-size:85%;">Science at the Bar &#8212; Causes for Concern</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">” <i>Science, Technology and Human Values</i> 7: 16-19.<br /></span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" title="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2"><span style="font-size:85%;">[2]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> For example see, Alvin Plantinga “</span><a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/religion-science/"><span style="font-size:85%;">Religion and Science</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">” The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy.</span></p>
<p><b>RELATED POSTS:</b><br /><a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/06/evolution-should-not-be-taught-in-state-schools-a-defence-of-plantinga-part-i-2/">Evolution should not be taught in State Schools: A Defence of Plantinga Part I</a><br /><a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/07/evolution-should-not-be-taught-in-state">Evolution should not be taught in State Schools: A Defence of Plantinga Part II </a></div>
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		<title>Tooley, Plantinga and the Deontological Argument from Evil Part II</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my last post, Tooley, Plantinga and the Deontological Argument from Evil Part I, I sketched Tooley&#8217;s distinction between a deontological and an axiological argument from evil and argued that Tooley rejects the axiological version because it rests on controversial ethical claims that are likely to be rejected by many theists. I outlined Tooley&#8217;s deontological [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">In my last post, <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/05/tooley-plantinga-and-the-deontological-argument-from-evil-part-i.html">Tooley, Plantinga and the Deontological Argument from Evil Part I</a>, I sketched Tooley&#8217;s distinction between a deontological and an axiological argument from evil and argued that Tooley rejects the axiological version because it rests on controversial ethical claims that are likely to be rejected by many theists. I outlined Tooley&#8217;s deontological version and explored the moral assumptions it is based on and Plantinga&#8217;s criticism of these.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="border-top: 3px solid #2e1a11; border-bottom: 3px solid #2e1a11; margin: 7px 0px 3px 5px; padding: 10px; float: right; width: 180px; text-align: center;"><strong>&#8220;God can do wrong only if he commands himself to do something and then disobeys his own command.&#8221;</strong></span>In this post, I will argue that Plantinga&#8217;s criticisms can be reformulated by appealing to a divine command theory of ethics and when they are, it can be shown that Tooley&#8217;s argument relies on controversial moral assumptions that many theists do, in fact, reject. Finally I will look at two objections to this line of argument; the claim that, even on a divine command theory, God has obligations and Tooley&#8217;s critique of the divine command theory. I will argue both objections fail.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">To save you having to click back repeatedly to the previous post, I will first re-cite step one of Tooley’s argument,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>(12) The property of choosing not to prevent an event that will cause the death of more than 50,000 ordinary people is a wrongmaking property of actions, and very serious one.<br />
 (13) The Lisbon earthquake killed approximately 60,000 ordinary people.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Therefore, from (12) and (13):</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>(14) Any action of choosing not to prevent the Lisbon earthquake has a very serious wrongmaking property.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Tooley then adds as an additional premise,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>(15) No rightmaking properties that we know of are such that we are justified in believing both that an action of choosing not to prevent the Lisbon earthquake would have had those rightmaking properties, and that those properties are sufficiently serious to counterbalance the relevant wrongmaking property.<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1;" name="_ftnref1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn1">[1]</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Modifying Plantinga&#8217;s Response : The Divine Command Theory</strong><br />
 In a more recent paper, <em>Naturalism, Theism, Obligation and Supervenience</em>, Plantinga makes a comment that suggests he could formulate his objection so that “permitted by God” was taken in the second sense mentioned above. Plantinga writes,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>Theists typically think ethical properties are intimately related to what God approves or values or commands. Thus they will often think of moral obligation as a matter of what God commands. What is obligatory are those actions God commands or wills; what is wrong are those actions God prohibits; what is permissible are those actions God does not prohibit.<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2;" name="_ftnref2" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn2">[2]</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Plantinga here refers to what has been called the divine command theory of ethics<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3;" name="_ftnref3" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn3">[3]</a>; the position that, “an action or kind of action is right or wrong if and only if and <em>because</em> it is commanded or forbidden by God.”<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn4;" name="_ftnref4" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn4">[4]</a> According to a divine command theory of ethics, being permitted by God is a right-making property; actions are right, if and only if, and because, they are permitted by God. I am inclined to think that any theist who accepts a divine command theory of ethics will deny (15) whether or not they “offer a theodicy.” They will also have reasons for denying (12).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This is because, if the divine command theory of ethics is true then (12) is false. Tooley affirms that, “the property of choosing not to prevent an event that will cause the death of more than 50,000 ordinary people <em>is</em> a wrongmaking property of actions, and very serious one.” According to a divine command theory of ethics this is false; there is only one ultimate wrong-making property, that of being contrary to God’s commands. Given that the property of “choosing not to prevent an event that will cause the death of more than 50,000” is not the same property as “being permitted by God,” it follows that the former property is not a right-making property of actions and, as such, (12) is false.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Even if one puts this point to one side, if a divine command theory of ethics is true, there is a further problem with (12); it is ambiguous compare:</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>[12 a] The property of choosing not to prevent an event that will cause the deaths of more than 50,000 ordinary people is a serious wrongmaking property of actions performed by human beings (or rational creatures relevantly like human beings).</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">and</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>[12b] The property of choosing not to prevent an event that will cause the deaths of more than 50,000 ordinary people is a serious wrongmaking property of actions performed by (including God).</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">For Tooley&#8217;s argument to be successful he must mean for (12) to be taken as [12b]. Tooley is arguing for the conclusion that if God exists then he has performed actions that it would be wrong for God to perform; which, given that God is good, is an impossible state of affairs.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">However, what is an “uncontroversial moral claim” that “does not seem very problematic” is [12a]. If a divine command theory of ethics is true then [12b] is false. This is because one implication of a divine command theory of ethics is that God does not have obligations and hence, strictly speaking, nothing he does can be right or wrong.<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn5;" name="_ftnref5" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn5">[5]</a> Craig notes “nor, plausibly, is God bound by moral duties since he does not issue commands to himself.”<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn6;" name="_ftnref6" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn6">[6]</a> Similarly Alston, in an article defending the claim that God has no obligations, states “we can hardly suppose that God is obliged to love his creatures because he commands himself to do so.”<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn7;" name="_ftnref7" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn7">[7]</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Craig and Alston&#8217;s arguments seem sound. If the divine command theory of ethics is true then a person <em>p</em> is required to do an action <em>a</em>, if and only if, God commands <em>p</em> to do <em>a</em>. It follows then, that God is required to do <em>a</em>, if and only if, God issues commands to himself. Moreover, if divine command theory of ethics is true then a person engages in wrongdoing, if and only if, they disobey a command that God issues to them. Hence, if divine command theory of ethics is true then God can do wrong only if he commands himself to do something and then disobeys his own command.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Neither of these conditions seems very likely. It seems unlikely that God issues commands to himself. Why would he need to? If he wanted to do something wouldn&#8217;t he just do it? Moreover, it seems absurd to suggest that even if God issues commands to himself that he would then disobey them. That would suggest that God displays some form of weakness of the will and it is not clear that weakness of the will is compatible with a supremely excellent being such as God.<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn8;" name="_ftnref8" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn8">[8]</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The divine command theorist will take a similar stance towards (15). If a divine command theory of ethics is true then the property of “being permitted by God” is a right-making property. If God permits an action, in the sense of refraining from prohibiting it, then that makes the action morally permissible. Consider then, “[God's] action of choosing not to prevent the Lisbon earthquake.” For the reasons spelt out above, God did not forbid himself from doing this; hence, this action has a right-making property that a theist, who embraces divine command theory of ethics, knows about.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Similarly, this right-making property outweighs any wrong-making property that the action has. As I mentioned previously, according to a divine command theory of ethics, there is only one ultimate wrong-making property, the property of being contrary to God’s commands. Given that God did not command himself to stop the Lisbon earth quake, the action of allowing the Lisbon earthquake to occur does not have any wrong-making properties and so there can be none that outweigh it.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Consequently, if a divine command theory of ethics is true then both (12) and (15) are false. It is not just theists who offer a theodicy then who would reject (15).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>The Significance of this Conclusion</em><br />
 I think this conclusion is significant for two reasons. First, a significant number of contemporary theists embrace and defend the divine command theory of ethics. Those who have defended it include, Robert Adams,<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn9;" name="_ftnref9" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn9">[9]</a> John Hare,<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn10;" name="_ftnref10" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn10">[10]</a> William Alston,<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn11;" name="_ftnref11" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn11">[11]</a> William Lane Craig,<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn12;" name="_ftnref12" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn12">[12]</a> Stephen C Evans,<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn13;" name="_ftnref13" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn13">[13]</a> Philip Quinn,<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn14;" name="_ftnref14" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn14">[14]</a> Edward Wierenga,<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn15;" name="_ftnref15" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn15">[15]</a> Janine Marie Idziak,<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn16;" name="_ftnref16" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn16">[16]</a> William Wanwright,<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn17;" name="_ftnref17" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn17">[17]</a> William Mann,<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn18;" name="_ftnref18" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn18">[18]</a> Thomas Carson<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn19;" name="_ftnref19" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn19">[19]</a> and more recently Alvin Plantinga.<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn20;" name="_ftnref20" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn20">[20]</a> These people are not obscure, marginal representatives of theism; these names include some of the leading defenders of theism in the literature today. Tooley&#8217;s argument then contains a premise that would be, and in fact is, rejected by many leading theists.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Second, this fact introduces a significant incoherence into Tooley&#8217;s discussion of the argument from evil. In “Does God Exist?” Tooley rejects an axiological argument from evil on the grounds that it rests on a moral claim that was “within ethical theory deeply controversial, and likely to be rejected by many theists and others.” Tooley&#8217;s own argument, however, presupposes the denial of a divine command theory of ethics. This is a controversial moral claim and one that is rejected by many theists. His own deontological argument then seems to be no better than the axiological version he rejects.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Finally, it seems in light of these conclusions that Tooley&#8217;s deontological argument from evil is incomplete. It is not enough for Tooley to simply ask “what rightmaking properties can one point to that one has good reason to believe would be present in the case of an action allowing the Lisbon earthquake and that would be sufficiently serious to counterbalance the property of allowing more than 50,000 to be killed?”<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn21;" name="_ftnref21" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn21">[21]</a> The theist <em>can</em> point to such a property. Tooley needs to supplement his argument with a refutation of the divine command theory; specifically, he needs to argue that even if theism is true then this theory is implausible and problematic. Until the divine command theory can be shown to be a rationally untenable option for theists, theists can avoid Tooley&#8217;s deontological argument from evil.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Objections</strong><br />
 In this last section I want to anticipate and criticise two lines of argument that Tooley or a defender of Tooley, might make against the above line of critique.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>Tooley&#8217;s Critique of Divine Command Theory</em><br />
 <strong></strong> I suggested that Tooley&#8217;s argument was incomplete until he provides the theist with some reason why a divine command theory of ethics cannot be accepted then the theist can reject two crucial premises of his argument. (A defender of Tooley could object here that he has argued for this conclusion. In a debate with William Lane Craig at the University of Colorado Tooley addressed the divine command theory and offered a Euthyphro style argument against it. I agree that a complete defence of my position requires a response to this argument, regular readers, however, will note that I have addressed this argument previously in <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/05/tooley-plantinga-and-the-deontological-argument-from-evil-part-i.html">Tooley, The Euthyphro Objection and Divine Commands</a>.)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>Divine Commands and Divine Obligations</em><br />
 My argument<strong></strong> depended on the claim, made by Craig and Alston, that if a divine command theory is true then God does not have duties. Linda Zagzebski has called this claim into question. In “More Suggestions for Divine Command Theorists,” Zagzebski proposes an account of divine obligations which is compatible with a divine command theory. Zagzebski starts by offering an account of the meaning of obligation, “What we mean by ‘obligation,’ is essentially this: there is no other option compatible with moral goodness.”<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn22;" name="_ftnref22" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn22">[22]</a> From this definition she argues that “the metaphysical source of divine obligation” and “the metaphysical source of human obligation are distinct.”<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn23;" name="_ftnref23" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn23">[23]</a></p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>The metaphysical source of the property of an act of a human being which makes it the case that there is no alternative act compatible with goodness is that it is commanded by God. The metaphysical source of the property of an act of God that makes it the case that there is no alternative act compatible with goodness is that that any alternative is incompatible with Gods nature.<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn24;" name="_ftnref24" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn24">[24]</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Hence, she concludes that it is “metaphysically necessary that an act X is an obligation for a human if and only if X is commanded by God” and “it is metaphysically necessary that an act X is an obligation for God if and only if X is compatible with Gods nature.”<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn25;" name="_ftnref25" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn25">[25]</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">While I am not convinced by Zagzebski&#8217;s account of divine obligations, even if one grants them for the sake of argument it is clear that it cannot be used to defend Tooley&#8217;s deontological argument from evil. Consider,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>(15) No rightmaking properties that we know of are such that we are justified in believing both that an action of choosing not to prevent the Lisbon earthquake would have had those rightmaking properties, and that those properties are sufficiently serious to counterbalance the relevant wrongmaking property.<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn26;" name="_ftnref26" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn26">[26]</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">If Zagzebski&#8217;s account of divine obligation is correct then (15) is false. Plantinga&#8217;s original unreformulated response is rehabilitated. As Plantinga pointed out “God exists and is a perfectly good being. If this is true, then any action that God has in fact performed has the property of being performed by a perfectly good being.”<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn27;" name="_ftnref27" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn27">[27]</a> Moreover, “theists believe that God performed the action of permitting the Lisbon earthquake. They therefore believe that the action of performing the Lisbon earthquake has the property of being performed by God, who is a perfectly good person.”<a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn28;" name="_ftnref28" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn28">[28]</a> But if the Lisbon earthquake was performed by a perfectly good person, performing it must be compatible with the divine nature and hence it has the very right-making property that Zagzebski identifies in her account of divine obligation.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The same is true for (12). Tooley contends,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>(12) The property of choosing not to prevent an event that will cause the death of more than 50,000 ordinary people is a wrongmaking property of actions, and very serious one.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">On Zagzebski&#8217;s account (12) is false. There are only two right-making properties that exist. The property of being compatible with God&#8217;s nature, which is what makes God&#8217;s actions right, and the property of being permitted by God, which is what makes human actions right. Now the property of “choosing not to prevent an event that will cause the deaths of more than 50,000 people” is neither of these properties and hence, is not a right-making property.<a name="Blog1"></a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1;" name="_ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref1"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[1]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Michael Tooley “Does God Exist?” in The <em>Knowledge of God eds Michael Tooley and Alvin Plantinga</em> (Malden, M A: Blackwell Publishers, 2008) 119; I am following Tooley&#8217;s enumeration.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2;" name="_ftn2" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref2"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[2]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Alvin Plantinga “<em>Naturalism, Theism, Obligation and Supervenience</em>” 31 available at </span><a href="http://www.ammonius.org/grant_topics.php#0708"><span style="font-size: 85%;">http://www.ammonius.org/grant_topics.php#0708</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> accessed 4 April 2009.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3;" name="_ftn3" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref3"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[3]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> The position is perhaps more correctly known as ethical voluntarism as some proponents of it emphasise the divine will as opposed to divine commands. However, because of the widespread use of the term &#8216;divine command theory&#8217; in the literature I will stick with the term.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn4;" name="_ftn4" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref4"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[4]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> W K Frankena <em>Ethics</em> 2nd ed (Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, 1973) 28.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn5;" name="_ftn5" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref5"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[5]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> It should also be noted that the claim that God does not have obligations has been defended on grounds other than a divine command theory. See, for example, William Alston, “Some Suggestions for Divine Command Theorists” in <em>Christian Theism and the Problems of Philosophy</em> ed. Michael Beaty (Notre Dame, IN: University of Notre Dame Press, 1990). Hence, even if one dismisses a divine command theory of ethics it still follows that [12a] is not the obviously uncontroversial statement Tooley thinks it is.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn6;" name="_ftn6" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref6"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[6]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> William Lane Craig <em>Philosphical Foundations of a Christian World View</em> (Downers Grover Il: Intervarsity Press, 2003) 529.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn7;" name="_ftn7" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref7"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[7]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> William Alston “Response to Zagzebski” <em>Perspectives on the Philosophy of William P. Alston</em> eds Heather D Battaly, Michael P Lynch, William P Alston, (Lanham, MD: Rowman &amp; Littlefield Publishers, 2005) 204.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn8;" name="_ftn8" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref8"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[8]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> It is worth noting the definition of God that Tooley works with in formulating his argument. For the purposes of his argument, Tooley is defining God as “an appropriate object of worship” as well as an appropriate object of other human concerns such as the desire that good will triumph over evil, and that justice will be done” etc.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn9;" name="_ftn9" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref9"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[9]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Robert Adams “Divine Command Meta-Ethics Modified Again” <em>Journal of Religious Ethics</em> 7:1 (1979); <em>Finite and Infinite Goods</em> (New York: Oxford University Press, 1999).<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn10;" name="_ftn10" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref10"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[10]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> John Hare <em>God&#8217;s Call: Moral Realism, God&#8217;s Commands and Human Autonomy</em> (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2001); <em>God and Morality: A Philosophical History</em> (Oxford: Blackwell Publishing, 2007).<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn11;" name="_ftn11" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref11"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[11]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> William Alston “Some Suggestions for Divine Command Theorists” in <em>Christian Theism and the Problems of Philosophy</em> ed Michael Beaty (Notre Dame, IN: University of Notre Dame Press, 1990).<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn12;" name="_ftn12" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref12"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[12]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> William Lane Craig “This most Gruesome of Guests” in <em>Is Goodness Without God Good Enough? A Debate on Faith, Secularism and Ethics</em> eds Robert K Garcia and Nathan L King (Lanthan: Rowan and Littlefield Publishers Inc, 2009) 172; also <em>Philosphical Foundations of a Christian World View</em> (Downers Grover Il: Intervarsity Press, 2003) 529-532.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn13;" name="_ftn13" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref13"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[13]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> C Stephen Evans <em>Kierkegaard’s Ethic of Love: Divine Commands and Moral Obligations</em> (New York: Oxford University Press, 2004).<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn14;" name="_ftn14" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref14"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[14]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Philip L Quinn <em>Divine Commands and Moral Requirements</em> (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1978); “An Argument for Divine Command Theory” in <em>Christian Theism and the Problems of Philosophy</em> ed Michael Beaty (Notre Dame, IN: University of Notre Dame Press, 1990) 289-302; “The Recent Revival of Divine Command Ethics” <em>Philosophy and Phenomenological Research</em> (Fall 1990) 345-365; “The Primacy of God&#8217;s Will in Christian Ethics” <em>Philosophical Perspectives</em> 6 (1992) 493-513; “Divine Command Theory” in <em>Blackwell Guide to Ethical Theory</em> ed Hugh Lafollette (Cambridge: Blackwell Publishers, 2000) 53-73; “Theological Voluntarism” <em>The Oxford Handbook of Ethical Theory</em> (New York: Oxford University Press, 2006) 63-90.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn15;" name="_ftn15" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref15"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[15]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Edward Weirenga <em>The Nature of God: An Inquiry into the Divine Attributes</em> (Ithaca, NY: Cornell University Press, 1989) 215-27. See also, “Utilitarianism and the Divine Command Theory” <em>American Philosophical Quarterly</em> 21 (1984) 311-318; and “A Defensible Divine Command Theory” <em>Nous </em>17 (1983) 387-408.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn16;" name="_ftn16" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref16"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[16]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Janine Marie Idziak “Divine Commands Are the Foundation of Morality” <em>Contemporary Debates in Philosophy of Religion</em> (Malden, MA:Blackwell Publishing Ltd 2004) 290-298.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn17;" name="_ftn17" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref17"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[17]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> William Wrainwright <em>Religion and Morality</em> (Aldershot: Ashgate Publishing, Ltd, 2005).<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn18;" name="_ftn18" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref18"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[18]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> William Mann “Theism and the Foundations of Ethics” in <em>The Blackwell Guide to Philosophy of Religion</em> ed William Mann (Oxford: Blackwell Publishing, 2005).<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn19;" name="_ftn19" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref19"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[19]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Thomas Carson <em>Value and the Good Life</em> (Notre Dame IN: Notre Dame University Press, 2000).<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn20;" name="_ftn20" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref20"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[20]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Alvin Plantinga “<em>Naturalism, Theism, Obligation and Supervenience</em>”available at </span><a href="http://www.ammonius.org/grant_topics.php#0708"><span style="font-size: 85%;">http://www.ammonius.org/grant_topics.php#0708</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> accessed 4 April 2009.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn21;" name="_ftn21" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref21"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[21]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Michael Tooley “Does God Exist?” in The Knowledge of God eds Michael Tooley and Alvin Plantinga (Malden, M A: Blackwell Publishers, 2008), 122<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn22;" name="_ftn22" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref22"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[22]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Linda Zagzebski “More Suggestions for Divine Command Theories” in <em>Perspectives on the Philosophy of William P. Alston</em> eds Heather D Battaly, Michael P Lynch, William P Alston, (Lanham, MD: Rowman &amp; Littlefield Publishers, 2005) 189.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn23;" name="_ftn23" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref23"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[23]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn24;" name="_ftn24" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref24"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[24]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn25;" name="_ftn25" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref25"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[25]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn26;" name="_ftn26" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref26"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[26]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Tooley “Does God Exist?” 119.<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn27;" name="_ftn27" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref27"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[27]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Alvin Plantinga &#8220;Reply to Tooley&#8217;s Opening Statement&#8221; in The Knowledge of God eds Michael Tooley and Alvin Plantinga (Malden, M A: Blackwell Publishers, 2008), 170<br />
 </span><a style="mso-footnote-id: ftn28;" name="_ftn28" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref28"><span style="font-size: 85%;">[28]</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid.</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This two-part series criticises the deontological argument from evil proposed by Micheal Tooley in The Knowledge of God, the print debate between him and Alvin Plantinga.1 My critique proceeds in four parts. Initially I will sketch Tooley&#8217;s distinction between a deontological and an axiological argument from evil and will argue that Tooley rejects the axiological [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">This two-part series criticises the deontological argument from evil proposed by Micheal Tooley in <em>The Knowledge of God</em>, the print debate between him and Alvin Plantinga.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote1anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote1sym">1</a> My critique proceeds in four parts. Initially I will sketch Tooley&#8217;s distinction between a deontological and an axiological argument from evil and will argue that Tooley rejects the axiological version because it rests on “controversial ethical claims;”<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote2anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote2sym">2</a> claims that are “likely to be rejected by many theists.”<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote3anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote3sym">3</a> Then I will outline Tooley&#8217;s deontological version and focus on the moral assumptions upon which it is based and Plantinga&#8217;s criticism of these. This will conclude Part I of the series.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In my next post, <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/05/tooley-plantinga-and-the-deontological-argument-from-evil-part-ii.html">Tooley, Plantinga and the Deontological Argument from Evil Part II</a>, I will argue that Plantinga&#8217;s criticisms can be reformulated by appealing to a divine command theory of ethics and when they are it can be shown that Tooley&#8217;s argument relies on controversial moral assumptions that many theists do, in fact, reject. Finally I will look at two objections to this line of argument; the claim that, even on a divine command theory, God has obligations and Tooley&#8217;s critique of the divine command theory. I will argue both objections fail.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Deontological and Axiological Arguments from Evil</strong><br />
 Tooley distinguishes axiological versions of the argument from evil from deontological versions. The former, &#8220;are formulated in terms of <em>axiological</em> concepts—specifically, in terms of the goodness or badness, the desirability or undesirability of states of affairs.&#8221;<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote4anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote4sym">4</a> [<em>Emphasis original</em>] The latter, &#8220;uses concepts that focus upon the rightness and wrongness of actions, and upon the&#8211;rightmaking or wrongmaking&#8211;properties that determine whether an action is one that ought to be performed.&#8221;<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote5anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote5sym">5</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Tooley suggests that axiological versions are problematic. He takes as a paradigm the version proposed by William Rowe. Central to Rowe&#8217;s argument is the following conceptual claim about a perfectly good being.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>(2) Any omnipotent, omniscient and morally perfect person would prevent the existence of any state of affairs that is both (a) intrinsically bad, or undesirable, and (b) such that he could prevent its existence without either allowing an equal or greater evil, or preventing an equal or greater good.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote6anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote6sym">6</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Rowe applies (2) to concrete evils in the world. He identifies various concrete evil states of affairs and contends that these concrete cases meet the criteria (a) and (b) specified in (2).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There are well rehearsed problems with Rowe&#8217;s attempt to do this.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote7anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote7sym">7</a> While Rowe can maintain that there are cases where we <em>do not know</em> of any greater good lost or greater evil prevented by the allowance of these evils, this is insufficient to show that the cases meet the specified criteria. His argument requires that we know that there are no greater goods lost or evils prevented <em>known to an omniscient being</em>. Tooley notes that the step from “we don&#8217;t know” to the claim that an “omniscient being does not know” is difficult to bridge and Rowe&#8217;s attempts to do so have been unsucessful.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote8anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote8sym">8</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Tooley&#8217;s most important objection is to contest (2) itself. Tooley notes that (2) appears to rely on a,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>common consquentialist claim &#8230; namely, the claim that an action is morally wrong if it fails to maximise the balance of good states of affairs over bad states of affairs. But the difficulty then is that &#8220;such a claim is, within ethical theory, deeply controversial, and likely to be rejected by many theists, and others.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote9anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote9sym">9</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">In response, Tooley develops and defends an argument from evil which does not rely on “controversial ethical claims,”<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote10anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote10sym">10</a> one that focuses “upon the rightness and wrongness of actions.”</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Tooley&#8217;s Deontological Argument</strong><br />
 Tooley summarises his argument succinctly,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>The basic idea involved in a deontological formulation of the argument from evil is then as follows. First, it is claimed that the world contains certain states of affairs such that any action of allowing any of those states of affairs to obtain would involve one or more known wrongmaking characteristics that would outweigh the sum total of known rightmaking characteristics that the action would have. If this is right, then any such action is <em>prima facie</em> wrong, relative to the total information that one presently has concerning the action&#8217;s rightmaking and wrongmaking characteristics. Secondly, the crucial question is then whether there is any sound inductive argument that will take one from the conclusion that such an action is <em>prima facie</em> wrong to the further conclusion that the action is probably wrong all things considered. If there is, one will then have an &#8216;inductively sound&#8217; version of the evidential argument from evil.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote11anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote11sym">11</a> [<em>Emphasis original</em></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">As Tooley notes the argument has two crucial steps. The first is the claim that an argument that allows a certain states of affairs to occur is <em>prima facie</em> wrong. The second is an inductive argument from the conclusion that such an action is <em>prima facie</em> wrong to the claim that it is <em>ultra facie</em> wrong; that is, wrong all things considered.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It is clear that Tooley considers the second step to be the ‘crucial question’ and he spends most of his article defending the inductive inference he draws. Tooley appears to think that the first step is fairly straight-forward and uncontroversial. His defence of it consists of a few paragraphs.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Tooley’s Argument for Step One</strong><br />
 Tooley’s argument for the first step consists of three premises,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>(12) The property of choosing not to prevent an event that will cause the death of more than 50,000 .ordinary people is a wrongmaking property of actions, and very serious one.</p>
<p>(13) The Lisbon earthquake killed approximately 60,000 ordinary people.</p>
<p>Therefore, from (12) and (13):</p>
<p>(14) Any action of choosing not to prevent the Lisbon earthquake has a very serious wrongmaking property.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Tooley then adds as an additional premise,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>(15) No rightmaking properties that we know of are such that we are justified in believing both that an action of choosing not to prevent the Lisbon earthquake would have had those rightmaking properties, and that those properties are sufficiently serious to counterbalance the relevant wrongmaking property.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote12anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote12sym">12</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Tooley believes that (12)-(15) are uncontroversial “(12) makes a moral claim, but one that does not seem at all problematic while statement (13) makes a historical claim for which there is, I believe, very good evidence."<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote13anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote13sym">13</a> Tooley appears to think that the only potentially controversial premise is (15) but that this would be denied only by philosophers who offer a theodicy.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote14anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote14sym">14</a> Tooley maintains that (15) is,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>[V]ery reasonable, given the relevant facts about the world, together with the moral knowledge that we possess. For what rightmaking properties can one point to that one has good reason to believe would be present in the case of an action of allowing the Lisbon earthquake, and that would be sufficiently serious to counterbalance the wrongmaking property of allowing more than 50,000 to be killed.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote15anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote15sym">15</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Tooley concludes that, in the absence of a defensible theodicy, there are compelling arguments for concluding that allowing the Lisbon earthquake to occur is <em>prima facie</em> wrong. This is not an insignificant conclusion. Many contemporary theists discuss the argument from evil by conceding that there are no defensible theodicies and then arguing that even in the absence of such a theodicy, belief in God is not rendered improbable by the existence of evil. If Tooley is correct, this line of argument is mistaken. The burden of proof is clearly on the theist to provide a theodicy; if he or she cannot then God’s action of permitting the Lisbon earthquake to occur is <em>prima facie</em> wrong. Moreover, if Tooley&#8217;s inductive arguments hold, the God&#8217;s actions will be <em>ultra facie</em> wrong.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Plantinga&#8217;s Response<br />
 </strong>Plantinga responds to Tooley’s argument by calling into question (15).</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>Christians and other theists believe that God exists and is a perfectly good being. If this is true, then any action that God has in fact performed has the property of having been performed by a perfectly good being. Furthermore, Christians and other theists believe that God performed the action of permitting the Lisbon earthquake. They therefore believe that the action of permitting the Lisbon earthquake has the property of having been performed by God, who is a perfectly good person. This is a rightmaking property that clearly outweighs and counterbalances any wrongmaking properties that action has.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote16anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote16sym">16</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">In this citation, Plantinga denies that only theists who offer a theodicy would contest [15]. Plantinga suggests that theists will typically believe that there is a right making property of which they know of; the property of being permitted by God. This property overrides all others and the action of allowing the Lisbon earthquake has this property. Hence, the Theist has good reasons for rejecting [15] even if he or she cannot offer an adequate theodicy.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Tooley’s response is to deny that being permitted by God is a right making property,</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>Suppose that God exists, and, thus permitted the Lisbon earthquake. One can ask “<em>What</em> property did the action of permitting the Lisbon earthquake have that <em>made</em> it morally permissible for God to permit it?” The response that it had the property of having been permitted by God, who is perfectly good, is not a satisfactory answer to that question: there must be some other property that made it permissible for God to permit the Lisbon earthquake. The property of having been permitted by God, while it entails that there must have been a rightmaking property, is <em>not itself</em> a rightmaking property.<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote17anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote17sym">17</a> [<em>Emphasis original</em>]</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">The phrase “having been permitted by God” is ambiguous. In one sense it could refer to God allowing an event to occur; if he does not stop it occurring then God permits the Lisbon earthquake. In another sense, however, it can refer to God refraining from forbidding an action. God permits drinking alcohol, for example. If God refrains from issuing a command to abstain from drinking alcohol then it is clear, I think, that Plantinga means the former and Tooley seems<a class="sdfootnoteanc" name="sdfootnote18anc" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote18sym">18</a> correct in suggesting that in this sense it is clear that being permitted by God is not a right making property but this leaves an important question hanging; couldn&#8217;t Plantinga&#8217;s critique be reformulated in terms of the “second sense” of the phrase “having been permitted by God.”</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In my next post, <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/05/tooley-plantinga-and-the-deontological-argument-from-evil-part-ii.html">Tooley, Plantinga and the Deontological Argument from Evil Part II</a>, I will propose a Plantingan reformulation and address some objections.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote1sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote1anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">1</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Michael Tooley “Does God Exist?” in <em>The Knowledge of God</em> eds Michael Tooley and Alvin Plantinga (Malden, M A: Blackwell Publishers, 2008) 70-147.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote2sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote2anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">2</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Tooley “Does God Exist?”105.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote3sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote3anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">3</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote4sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote4anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">4</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote5sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote5anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">5</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid, 106.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote6sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote6anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">6</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> William Rowe “Evil and Theodicy” <em>Philosophical Topics</em> 16: 119-32. I am following Rowe&#8217;s enumeration.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote7sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote7anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">7</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Stephen John Wykstra “Rowe&#8217;s Noseeum Arguments from Evil;” Peter van Inwagen “The Problem of Evil, the Problem of Air, and the Problem of Silence” and “Reflections on the Chapters by Draper, Russell, and Gale;” William P Alston “The Inductive Argument from Evil and the Human Cognitive Condition” and “Some (Temporarily) Final Thoughts on Evidential Arguments from Evil;” Daniel Howard-Snyder “The Argument from Inscrutable Evil” in <em>The Evidential Argument from Evil</em> ed Daniel Howard-Snyder (Bloomington, Indiana University Press: 1996). See also, Alvin Plantinga Warranted Christian Belief (New York: Oxford University Press, 2000).<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote8sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote8anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">8</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Tooley “Does God Exist” 104.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote9sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote9anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">9</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid, 105.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote10sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote10anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">10</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote11sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote11anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">11</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid, 116.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote12sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote12anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">12</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid, 119; I am following Tooley&#8217;s enumeration.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote13sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote13anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">13</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid, 122.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote14sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote14anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">14</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote15sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote15anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">15</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Ibid.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote16sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote16anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">16</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Alvin Plantinga “Reply to Tooley&#8217;s Opening Statement” in <em>The Knowledge of God</em> eds Michael Tooley and Alvin Plantinga (Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishers, 2008) 170-71.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote17sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote17anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">17</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> Michael Tooley “Closing Statement and Reply to Plantinga&#8217;s Comments” in <em>The Knowledge of God</em> eds Michael Tooley and Alvin Plantinga (Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishers, 2008) 238.<br />
 </span><a class="sdfootnotesym" name="sdfootnote18sym" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#sdfootnote18anc"><span style="font-size: 85%;">18</span></a><span style="font-size: 85%;"> I say seems because Linda Zagzebski&#8217;s account of divine obligations would challenge this contention as I will argue in part IV.</span></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">Several Christian thinkers, most notably, C S Lewis, John Hare, Robert Adams and William Lane Craig have argued that Theism provides a superior foundation for moral obligation than Naturalism does. Most of these thinkers defend this notion by developing and defending a divine command theory.<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn1">[1]</a> John W Loftus is aware of this and in <a href="http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/">The Christian Illusion of Moral Superiority</a>, he offers a refutation of divine command theory. I will argue that Loftus is mistaken; his arguments are based on a confusion between ontological and epistemological foundations.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Avoiding Strawmen</strong><br />
 Before turning to Loftus’ arguments, it is necessary to spell out exactly what a divine command theory of ethics is. It is the thesis that “an action or kind of action is right or wrong if and only if and <em>because</em> it is commanded or forbidden by God.”<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn2">[2]</a> two things are noteworthy about this definition.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em><strong>What is a Divine Command Theory?</strong><br />
 </em>First, the thesis is limited to deontological properties. Philip Quinn defines deontological properties as follows, “I mean to refer to whether it has such properties as being morally permitted, being morally forbidden or prohibited, and being morally obligatory or required.”<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn3">[3]</a> Deontological properties are contrasted with axiological properties such as goodness and badness. Evans notes, “it does not appear that the concept of obligation is identical to the concept of what it is ‘good to do’ … It might be good, even saintly, for me to give a kidney to benefit a stranger, but it not an act I am obliged to do.”<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn4">[4]</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Despite frequently being portrayed this way in common critiques, divine command theories do not offer accounts of broader axiological properties. This is evident from the writings of those who defend such theories. Quinn, after defining deontological properties in the aforementioned way, affirms he is not offering a divine command theory of axiological properties. In this he is followed by Adams, Alston, Craig, Wierenga, Hare and Plantinga and, even to some extent, Thomas Carson. This is not something unique to modern divine command theories; older divine command theorists such as Paley, Locke, Berkley and Suarez typically limited divine command theories to accounts of deontological properties and not to broader axiological properties such as goodness in general.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The second point is to note is that the word “because” in English is ambiguous. When a divine command theorist claims that “an action or kind of action is right or wrong if and only if and <em>because</em> it is commanded or forbidden by God.”<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn5">[5]</a> The theorist could mean either, that one cannot know what is right and wrong unless one believes in divine commands; or that right and wrong cannot exist independently of Gods commands. The first claim states that beliefs about right and wrong are epistemologically dependent on beliefs about divine commands. The second is that the existence of moral properties, such as right and wrong, are ontologically dependent on God’s commands.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It is important to note that epistemological dependence and ontological dependence are not the same thing. Take a straightforward example of identity; the property of being water is identical with (or constituted by) the property of being H20. As such, H20 and water are not ontologically independent. Yet people for thousands of years could perceive water, drink it, detect it and use it without knowing anything about atomic theory. Hence, our knowledge of the existence water is not dependent on our knowledge of H20.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">When divine command theorists state that an action or kind of action is right or wrong if and only if and <em>because</em> it is commanded or forbidden by God they are using “because” in an ontological sense. The <em>locus classicus</em> for contemporary defences of divine command theory is the work of Robert Adams who affirms that “ethical wrongness is [identical with] the property of being contrary to the commands of a loving God.”<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn6">[6]</a> Adams here states that the relationship between the property of being contrary to God&#8217;s commands and wrongness is the ontological relationship of identity.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Elsewhere in the article he is explicit about this; he suggests that wrongness is identical with or constituted by being contrary to divine commands in the same way that water is constituted by (or identical with) H20. Other divine command theorists explicitly follow Adam&#8217;s lead on this. Stephen Evans and William Alston both affirm that divine commands are constitutive of deontological properties and note Adams’ identity claim as a paradigm of the type of relationship he is defending.<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn7">[7]</a> Craig cites Alston<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn8">[8]</a> as the inspiration for his position and contends that “commands constitute our moral duties”<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn9">[9]</a> he explains that by this he means to make divine commands an ontological foundation, and in particular, the concept of “informative identity”<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn10">[10]</a> analogous to the way “we explain the nature of water by identifying it with H20 or explain the nature of heat by identifying it with molecular motion.”<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn11">[11]</a> Craig is explicit that he is not offering divine commands as an epistemological foundation, “It would, indeed, be arrogant and ignorant to claim that people cannot be good without belief in God. But that was not the question.”<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn12">[12]</a>Also, “My concern here is with moral ontology not moral epistemology &#8230; to repeat, my concern is with an ontological foundation for morality, not with epistemological foundations.”<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn13">[13]</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The other leading defenders of divine command theory are equally clear that they are proposing a theory of the ontological and not the epistemological foundations of moral obligation. Quinn,<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn14">[14]</a> Weirenga,<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn15">[15]</a> Hare<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn16">[16]</a> and Plantinga<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn17">[17]</a> all offer accounts of the ontological foundations of deontological properties. Janine Marie Idziak notes that, historically, divine command theories were usually understood as ontological theories and not epistemological theories about how one knows what is right and wrong.<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn18">[18]</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><em>John Loftus’ Mischaracterisation of Divine Command Theories</em></strong><br />
 These observations lead into my main criticism of Loftus’ discussion. Loftus mistakenly understands divine command theories as signifying epistemological dependence. At the beginning of his article Loftus refers to the view that “[moral] standards are grounded in the commands of a good creator God, and these commands come from God’s very nature” and infers from this that “the Christian claims to have absolute and objective ethical standards for <em>knowing </em>right from wrong, which is something they claim atheists don’t have” [<em>Emphasis added</em>] here Loftus suggests that the claim that right and wrong depend on God&#8217;s commands is the claim that knowledge of right and wrong depends on belief in divine commands.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The same interpretation is seen elsewhere in his chapter when he defines a divine command theory Loftus states Morality is based upon what God commands. “No other reasons are needed but that God so commanded it. If God commanded it, then it is right. If God forbids it, then it is wrong.” and citing the Divine Command theory of William Lane Craig he states “Many Christians will maintain they have a superior foundation for <em>knowing</em> and for choosing to do what is good. They claim to have objective ethical standards for being good, based in a morally good creator God, and that the atheist has no ultimate justification for being moral.” [<em>Emphasis added</em>] Despite the fact that Craig and other divine command theorists have repeatedly stated they claim no such thing.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Another problem with Loftus’ characterisation is that in several places he suggests that divine command theories claim that axiological properties such as goodness depend on God&#8217;s commands. He states, for example, that divine command theory entails that “God could’ve commanded something else, or even something contrary, or something horribly evil and simply declared it good” or that “If we think that the commands of God are good merely because he commands them, then his commands are….well….just his commands.” Examples could be multiplied; the problem is, as I have noted, divine command theorists typically do not offer their theories as foundations for axiological properties, they limit their theories to deontological properties.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">These misconstruals undermine many of the criticisms Loftus makes. As I will show, many of his objections are based on a conflation between epistemology and ontology.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In my next post, <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/05/john-w-loftus-on-the-christian-illusion-of-moral-superiority-part-ii/">John W. Loftus on The Christian Illusion of Moral Superiority Part II</a>, I will address Loftus&#8217; arguments against a divine command theory, the emptiness of God is good and his arbitrariness objection.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref1">[1]</a> C S Lewis rejected a divine command theory; I believe, however, that Lewis&#8217; dismissal is based on unsound arguments and the divine command theory coheres better with his argument in <em>Mere Christianity</em> as I argued in my paper “God and the Moral Law in C. S. Lewis” <em>Theological Perspectives on C S Lewis Conference</em> Carey Baptist College, Auckland, 1 July 2008.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref2">[2]</a> W K Frankena <em>Ethics</em> 2nd edn (Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, 1973) 28.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref3">[3]</a> Philip Quinn “An Argument for Divine Command Theory” in <em>Christian Theism and the Problems of Philosophy</em> ed. Michael Beaty (Notre Dame, IN: University of Notre Dame Press, 1990) 291.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref4">[4]</a> C Stephen Evans <em>Kierkegaard’s Ethic of Love: Divine Commands and Moral Obligations</em> (New York: Oxford University Press, 2004) 16.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref5">[5]</a> Frankena <em>Ethics</em> 28.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref6">[6]</a> Robert Adams “Divine Command Meta-Ethics Modified Again” <em>Journal of Religious Ethics</em> 7:1 (1979) 76.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref7">[7]</a> William Alston “Some Suggestions for Divine Command Theorists” in <em>Christian Theism and the Problems of Philosophy</em> ed. Michael Beaty (Notre Dame, IN: University of Notre Dame Press, 1990) 303-304.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref8">[8]</a> William Lane Craig “This Most Gruesome of Guests” eds Robert K Garcia and Nathan King <em>Is Goodness Without God Good Enough? A Debate on Faith Secularism and Ethics</em> (Lanhan: Rowan and Littlefield, 2009) 186.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref9">[9]</a> William Lane Craig “The Craig/Kurtz Debate: Is Goodness Without God Good Enough” Eds Robert K Garcia and Nathan King <em>Is Goodness Without God Good Enough? A Debate on Faith Secularism and Ethics</em> (Lanhan: Rowan and Littlefield, 2009) 30.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref10">[10]</a> Mark C Murphy &#8220;Theism, Atheism and the Explanation of Moral Value” eds Robert K Garcia and Nathan King <em>Is Goodness Without God Good Enough? A Debate on Faith Secularism and Ethics</em> (Lanhan: Rowan and Littlefield, 2009) 127.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref11">[11]</a> Ibid.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref12">[12]</a> William Lane Craig “The Indefensibility of Theistic Meta-Ethical Foundations for Morality” <em>Foundations</em> 5 (1997) 9.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref13">[13]</a> Craig “This Most Gruesome of Guests” 168.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref14">[14]</a> Ibid, 293.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref15">[15]</a> Edward Weirenga <em>The Nature of God: An Inquiry into the Divine Attributes</em> (Ithaca, NY: Cornell University Press, 1989) 215-27. See also “Utilitarianism and the Divine Command Theory” <em>American Philosophical Quarterly</em> 21 (1984) 311-318; and “A Defensible Divine Command Theory” <em>Nous</em> 17 (1983) 387-408.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref16">[16]</a> John Hare <em>God&#8217;s Call: Moral Realism, God&#8217;s Commands and Human Autonomy</em> (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2001) 49.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref17">[17]</a> Alvin Plantinga “Naturalism, Theism, Obligation and Supervenience”<br />
 <a href="http://www.ammonius.org/assets/pdfs/plantinga.pdf">www.ammonius.org/assets/pdfs/plantinga.pdf</a>.<br />
 <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref18">[18]</a> Janine Maree Idziak “In Search of Good Positive Reasons for an Ethics of Divine Commands: A Catalogue of Arguments,” <em>Faith and Philosophy</em> 6:1 (1989) 60.</span></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div align="justify">This is the first of a two-part series where I examine a recent argument criticising religious ethics by Walter Sinnott-Armstrong.</p>
<p>In many of his publications and debates William Lane Craig has defended the contention that if theism is true then there exists a sound foundation for moral duties. In a recent article, Walter Sinnott-Armstrong has criticised this contention. Armstrong has claimed that his criticisms do not just call into question Craig’s argument for a theistic based system of ethics, he contends that his arguments are conclusive against <i>any</i> theistic account of ethics which is compatible with Christianity. He states, “Other theists might try to give better arguments for a religious view of morality. I don’t see how they could avoid all the problems in Craig’s account without leaving traditional Christianity far behind.”<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1">[1]</a></p>
<p>Before discussing Armstrong’s critique it is important to define a few key terms; this will become important later on. First, by theism, Craig means, belief in a necessarily existent, all powerful, all knowing, perfectly virtuous, immaterial person who created the universe. By foundation, he means, an ontological or meta-physical foundation. The ontological grounding he has in mind is that of “informative identification;”<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2">[2]</a> an example of this is the way “we explain the nature of water by identifying it with H20 or explain the nature of heat by identifying it with molecular motion.”<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3">[3]</a> Craig argues that if theism is true then one can informatively identify moral obligations with divine commands; hence, providing a plausible and defensible foundation for moral obligations.</p>
<p><span style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; BORDER-TOP: #2e1a11 3px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; FLOAT: right; PADDING-BOTTOM: 10px; MARGIN: 8px 0px 5px 5px; WIDTH: 200px; PADDING-TOP: 10px; BORDER-BOTTOM: #2e1a11 3px solid; TEXT-ALIGN: center"><strong>“his arguments display a conflation of epistemic and ontological questions”</strong></span>Armstrong’s critique begins by noting that Craig defends “traditional divine command theory.” Armstrong contends that such a position is “incredible”<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn4" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4">[4]</a> and subject to a “cavalcade of devastating objections.”<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn5" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn5" name="_ftnref5">[5]</a></p>
<p>Two initial points are worth making. First, the position Craig defends is not a “traditional divine command theory” but rather a version of the modified divine command theory defended by Robert Adams,<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn6" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn6" name="_ftnref6">[6]</a> more recently by William Alston<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn7" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn7" name="_ftnref7">[7]</a> and Stephen Evans<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn8" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn8" name="_ftnref8">[8]</a>, also <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/03/tooley-the-euthyphro-objection-and-divine-commands-part-ii/">I have defended it here</a>.</p>
<p>This theory affirms that the property of being wrong is identical with the property of being contrary to God’s commands in much the same way that water is identical with H20. Second, many of the “devastating objections” consist simply of a repetition of the tired old lines always used against divine command theories; most of these objections have been subjected to rigorous criticism in the literature on divine commands over the last 30 years by people such as Philip Quinn,<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn9" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn9" name="_ftnref9">[9]</a> Edward Weirenga,<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn10" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn10" name="_ftnref10">[10]</a> Robert Adams,<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn11" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn11" name="_ftnref11">[11]</a> William Wrainwright<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn12" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn12" name="_ftnref12">[12]</a> and <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/search/label/Divine%20Command%20Theory">again by me</a><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn13" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn13" name="_ftnref13">[13]</a>. Armstrong does not address any of these criticisms; he merely repeats the standard arguments without even mentioning, much less, addressing the problems noted by these authors. In fact, in several places, his arguments display a conflation of epistemic and ontological questions which is a common error <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/01/on-a-common-equivocation/">as I have argued here</a>.</p>
<p><b><i>Armstrong’s Argument from Harm </i></b><br />Putting these niggles to one side, however, Armstrong&#8217;s main line of argument is fairly novel.<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn14" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn14" name="_ftnref14">[14]</a> He states, </div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">There is a much more plausible foundation for morality. It seems obvious to me, and to everyone who does not start with peculiarly religious assumptions, that what makes rape morally wrong is the extreme harm that rape causes to rape victims.<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn15" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn15" name="_ftnref15">[15]</a></p>
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<p align="justify">Armstrong suggests that Craig&#8217;s conditional, if theism is true then there exists a sound foundation for moral duties, is mistaken because a more plausible foundation exists for our duties, one that is independent of God&#8217;s commands. The wrongness of actions can be founded in the harm caused by immoral actions such as rape. Armstrong provides two arguments as to why this harm-based or secular account of the nature of wrongness is superior to a divine command theory.</p>
<blockquote><p align="justify">(a) The harm account is more economical than a divine command theory;<br />(b) The harm account makes moral obligations more objective than a divine command theory does.</p>
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<p align="justify">In <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/04/walter-sinnott-armstrong-william-lane-craig-and-the-argument-from-harm-part-ii/">my next post</a> I will address arguments (a) and (b). I will leave you with the thought that it is worth noting that Armstrong’s conclusion misses the point. He contends that <i>everyone who does not start with peculiarly religious assumptions</i> will see that the harm-based foundation is more plausible than a divine command theory. Nothing in Craig’s contention contradicts this. Craig&#8217;s contention is that <i>if</i> God exists then there is a sound basis for moral obligations. The sound basis he identifies is divine commands. Craig, then, was not arguing that a divine command theory was the most plausible theory <i>in the absence of religious assumptions</i>, Craig argues that in the absence of religious assumptions it is Nihilism, not divine command theory, which is the most plausible account of moral obligation. Craig’s contention is that a divine command theory is plausible <i>if</i> one grants such assumptions. Armstrong’s conclusion actually has no bearing on the contention he is attempting to refute.</p>
<p><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"><span style="font-size:85%;">[1]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Walter Sinnott-Armstrong, “Why Traditional Theism Cannot Provide an Adequate Foundation for Morality” in <i>Is Goodness without God Good Enough: A Debate on Faith, Secularism and Ethics</i>, eds. Robert K Garcia and Nathan L King (Lanham: Rowman &amp; Littlefield Publishers, 2008) 114.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2"><span style="font-size:85%;">[2]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Mark C Murphy “Theism, Atheism and the Explanation of Moral Value” in <i>Is Goodness without God Good Enough: A Debate on Faith, Secularism and Ethics</i>, eds. Robert K Garcia and Nathan L King (Lanham: Rowman &amp; Littlefield Publishers, 2008) 127.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref3" name="_ftn3"><span style="font-size:85%;">[3]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Ibid.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn4" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref4" name="_ftn4"><span style="font-size:85%;">[4]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Walter Sinnott-Armstrong “Why Traditional Theism Cannot Provide an Adequate Foundation for Morality” 106.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn5" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref5" name="_ftn5"><span style="font-size:85%;">[5]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;">Ibid, 108.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn6" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref6" name="_ftn6"><span style="font-size:85%;">[6]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Robert Adams <i>Finite and Infinite Goods</i> (New York: Oxford University Press, 1999); “Divine Command Meta-Ethics Modified Again” <i>Journal of Religious Ethics</i> 7:1 (1979) 66-79; &#8220;Divine Commands and the Social Nature of Obligation&#8221; <i>Faith and Philosophy</i> 4 (1987) 262-275. </span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn7" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref7" name="_ftn7"><span style="font-size:85%;">[7]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> William Alston “Some Suggestions for Divine Command Theorists” in <i>Christian Theism and the Problems of Philosophy</i> ed. Michael Beaty ( Notre Dame, IN: University of Notre Dame Press, 1990) 303-26.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn8" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref8" name="_ftn8"><span style="font-size:85%;">[8]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> C. Stephen Evans <i>Kierkegaard’s Ethic of Love: Divine Commands and Moral Obligations</i> (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2004).<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn9" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref9" name="_ftn9"><span style="font-size:85%;">[9]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Philip L Quinn <i>Divine Commands and Moral Requirements</i> (Oxford: Clarendon Press 1978); “Divine Command Theory” in <em>The Blackwell Guide to Ethical Theory</em> ed Hugh LaFollette (Malden MA: Blackwell Publishing Co, 1999) 53-73; “Theological Voluntarism” in <em>The Oxford Handbook to Ethical Theory</em> Ed David Copp (New York: Oxford University Press, 2006) 63-90.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn10" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref10" name="_ftn10"><span style="font-size:85%;">[10]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Edward Weirenga, <em>The Nature of God: An Inquiry into the Divine Attributes</em> (Ithaca, NY: Cornell University Press, 1989) 215-27. See also, “Utilitarianism and the Divine Command Theory,” <em>American Philosophical Quarterly</em> 21 (1984) 311-318; and “A Defensible Divine Command Theory” <em>Nous</em> 17 (1983) 387-408.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn11" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref11" name="_ftn11"><span style="font-size:85%;">[11]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Robert Adams “A Modified Divine Command Theory of Ethical Wrongness” in <em>Divine Commands and Morality</em> ed Paul Helm (New York: Oxford University Press, 1981) 83-108; “Divine Command Meta-Ethics Modified Again” <em>Journal of Religious Ethics</em> 7:1 (1979) 66-79; Moral Arguments for Theistic Belief” in <em>Rationality and Religious Belief</em> ed C F Delaney (Notre Dame, Indiana: University of Notre Dame Press, 1979) 116-140.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn12" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref12" name="_ftn12"><span style="font-size:85%;">[12]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> William Wrainwright Religion and Morality (Aldershot: Ashgate Publishing, Ltd, 2005).<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn13" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref13" name="_ftn13"><span style="font-size:85%;">[13]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Matthew Flannagan “The Premature Dismissal of Voluntarism” in <i>Colloquium: The Australasian Theological Review</i> (forthcoming).<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn14" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref14" name="_ftn14"><span style="font-size:85%;">[14]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> I say “fairly novel” because a very similar objection was raised in Don Marquis&#8217;s seminal essay, “Why Abortion is Immoral” <em>The Abortion Controversy: 25 Years after Roe v Wade, A Reader</em> eds Louis Pojman and Francis Beckwith (Belmont, CA: Wadsworth Publishing Company, 1998) 345.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn15" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref15" name="_ftn15"><span style="font-size:85%;">[15]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Walter Sinnott-Armstrong “Why Traditional Theism Cannot Provide an Adequate Foundation for Morality” 106.</span></p>
<p><strong>RELATED POSTS:</strong><br /><a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/04/walter-sinnott-armstrong-william-lane-craig-and-the-argument-from-harm-part-ii/">Walter Sinnott-Armstrong, William Lane Craig and the Argument from Harm Part II </a><br /><a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/03/tooley-the-euthyphro-objection-and-divine-commands-part-i/">Tooley, The Euthyphro Objection and Divine Commands: Part I</a><br /><a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/03/tooley-the-euthyphro-objection-and-divine-commands-part-ii/">Tooley, The Euthyphro Objection and Divine Commands: Part II</a><br /><a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/04/maverick-philosopher-on-the-historical-atrocities-argument/">Maverick Philosopher on the Historical Atrocities Argument</a> </p>
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		<title>The Problem of Evil: Why does God Allow Suffering?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the most common objections to the Christian faith is the problem of evil. Of all objections mounted against the Christian faith, prima facie, it does seem the most compelling, one of the hardest things for us to get our heads around.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div align="justify">One of the most common objections to the Christian faith is the problem of evil. Of all objections mounted against the Christian faith, <i>prima facie</i>, it does seem the most compelling, one of the hardest things for us to get our heads around.</p>
<p>How does a Christian reconcile the fact of evil and suffering in the world in the face of a God that is omnipotent, omniscient and benevolent? If he is omnipotent then he knows about all evil before it occurs so why does he allow it? Surely if god is omnipotent then he can halt evil. If he is benevolent then why will not act against it?</p>
<p>Marc raised the same question in the comments section of, <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/04/good-friday-why-celebrate-easter">Good Friday: Why Celebrate Easter?</a> In the discussion that followed I charged him with special pleading, of holding Christians to a higher standard than the standard he tacitly holds skepticism to. As discussions in comments sections are often missed instead of continuing the debate with Marc I thought I would express myself more clearly here. In doing so I will borrow extensively from a talk Matt gave for <a href="http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/02/invitation-to-an-mandm-event/">the launch of Thinking Matters</a> (which you will see when we finally get the video footage of the talk online). [Given the difficulties of footnoting notes and impressions from talks and knowledge obtained through years of discussions with one's spouse (though some came from primary sources that I read myself) pretty much from this post from this point onwards, though not in entirety, should be seen as being authored by MandM as opposed to just me though it is posted by me because overall it I put it together.]</p>
<p>Before addressing an objection of this nature one should first establish the correct approach to take towards addressing criticisms of the faith and be clear as to what constitutes a fair set of rules for the terms of engagement. Timothy Keller writes,</p></div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">All doubts, however sceptical and cynical they may seem, are really a set of alternate beliefs. You cannot doubt belief A except from a position of faith in belief B….</p>
<p>The only way to doubt Christianity rightly and fairly is to discern the alternative belief under each of your doubts and then ask yourself what reasons you have for believing it. How do you know your belief is true? It would be inconsistent to require more justification for Christian belief than you do for your own, but that is frequently what happens.</p>
<p>In fairness you must doubt your doubts. My thesis is that if you come to recognise the beliefs on which your doubts about Christianity are based, and if you seek as much proof for those beliefs as you seek from Christians for theirs &#8211; you will discover that your doubts are not as solid as they first appeared.<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1">[1]</a></p>
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<div align="justify">In making his assertions, Marc, criticised my beliefs from a position of belief, or faith, in the correctness of his own. He asked a standard of my beliefs that he did not require for his own.</p>
<p>When one encounters a charge like the one Marc raised, I understand that even if Marc didn’t set the problem out in the manner the world’s top atheist philosophers might have done, his question nevertheless hides a disguised argument that warrants addressing. Daniel Howard-Snyder states,</p></div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">[T]he theoretical &#8220;problem&#8221; of evil is often expressed in the form of a pointed question. God is able to prevent evil and suffering and He would know about them before they happened, right? Moreover, since He is unsurpassably good, surely He would not permit them just for the fun of it. So <i>why doesn’t He prevent them?</i><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2">[2]</a></p>
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<div align="justify">In the literature this argument is typically more formalised so that it reads something like: </div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">[1] That as God is omniscient and omnipotent (all-knowing and all-powerful) he would be both able to know about all the suffering that exists and act to prevent it;<br />[2] Given that God is good, he would not allow such evil to exist unless he had a good reason for it.</p>
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<div align="justify">[2] is what Snyder calls a <i>justifying reason</i> “a reason that was compatible with his never doing wrong and his being perfect in love.”<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3">[3]</a></p>
<p>These premises entail that if God exists then he must have a good reason for allowing suffering. I agree with Marc and those who have gone before him on this part of their objection, I am sure that God does had a good reason. However, the question that follows from here, which is typically “then, what is God’s reason for allowing suffering?” which I concede has powerful rhetorical force, contains a critical flaw.</p>
<p>If one is to look at the question purely rationally it is should become apparent. This flaw is widely noted and discussed in the literature by the likes of Steve Wykstra, Alvin Plantinga, Peter Van Ingwagen, William Rowe, Micheal Tooley, William Alston, and Howard-Snyder to name a few.</p>
<p>So what is this flaw? I have not contested the claim that if God exists then he must have a good reason for allowing evil. However this has not satisfied Marc who wants to know what that reason is. Asking this latter question tacitly attempts to add a further premise to the above argument,</p></div>
<blockquote><p align="justify">[3] If a Christian cannot provide a detailed account of God’s reasons in [2] then it follows that God has none.</p>
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<div align="justify">This assumed premise is the point at which the argument succeeds or fails. If the failure to provide God’s reasons in detail does not provide any grounds for thinking that God in fact has no reasons then failure to answer the question, while deeply perplexing and emotionally unsatisfying, does not establish a reason for rejecting God.</p>
<p>Alvin Plantinga provides an illustration of the flaws inherent in [3]. Paraphrasing him; suppose I ask you too look in a tent and tell me if there&#8217;s a St Bernard inside. In this instance, I would have every reason to trust what you say you see as a St Bernard the sort of thing I would expect you to be able to observe if it were inside a tent. But suppose I ask you to look inside and tell me if there are any &#8216;no-see-ums&#8217; inside the tent (a no-see-um is gnat with a big bite that is small enough to pass through the netting of a tent, as such it is too small to see). Now, I have no reason to trust your answer in this instance, as you can&#8217;t see no-see-ums. Here&#8217;s the problem; the sceptic is assuming that if there is a reason for our suffering then it is more like a St Bernard than it is like a no-see-um. However, this is simply assumed, not argued for. It is certainly, if not at least possible, that we suffer for a reason but that that reason may not be something that we can easily detect.<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn4" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4">[4]</a></div>
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<div align="justify">As Keller notes, “we see lurking within this hard nosed skepticism an enormous faith in one’s cognitive faculties. If our minds cannot plump the depths of the universe for answers to suffering, well there can’t be any!. This is blind faith of a tall order.”<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn5" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn5" name="_ftnref5">[5]</a></p>
<p>For the problem of evil to succeed the sceptic must provide some argument as to why God’s detailed reasons for allowing evil are like St Bernards and such an argument must be grounded on premises that Christians are rationally required to accept or else we could simply escape the charge by justifiably rejecting the premise.</p>
<p>Now if a finite human being, such as myself, with limited factual knowledge, limited perspective in time and space and an imperfect moral character cannot produce a good reason as to why evil occurs then I fail to see why the Christian must accept the conclusion: ‘therefore, God cannot possibly have any such reasons.’</p>
<p>William Alston has noted that the sceptic argument in this context is a bit like a person who, with no background in quantum physics, decided that when he failed to understand why the world’s best physicist held a particular view that if followed that the physicist obviously had no reason to hold it.<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn6" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn6" name="_ftnref6">[6]</a></p>
<p>Suppose I am wrong. Suppose that the failure to provide an answer does mean that it is improbable that one exists and from this, that it follows the existence of God is improbable given the existence of evil. What follows from this? Nowhere near as much as you might think because the fact that the existence of God is improbable on one fact does not mean that it is improbable <i>per se</i>.</p>
<p>Plantinga notes that there are many beliefs that we hold to which are improbable on some body of evidence we believe. If I was playing poker was dealt four aces, then this is highly improbable given the number of cards in the pack and number of possible combinations that I could have been dealt. Yet I am rational in believing that I was dealt four aces as I can see that I have four aces in my hand (to give but one defence).</p>
<p>Moreover, it is well known that a belief can be improbable on one sub-set of beliefs a person possesses and yet highly probable by every thing that the person believes. For example, if I know my friend is French and I know that most French people cannot swim then my belief that my friend is a swimmer is improbable based on this set of evidence. On the other hand, suppose I know that my friend is a life guard by profession and that all life guards, even French ones, can swim. Then despite the fact that a belief is improbable on the basis of one set of evidence, it is not necessarily improbable on the whole.</p>
<p>Finally the question needs to be raised about how well Christianity performs regarding the existence of evil relative to alternative views. Some Philosophers have suggested that the existence of evil might also make the non-existence of God impossible. I can only sketch the reasons briefly but they are worth noting.</p>
<p>First, in order for suffering to exist sentient life forms must exist. However, there have been various discoveries from contemporary physics which establish that a universe evolving life is extremely improbable. For life to evolve there are around 15 constants necessary, each must have precise values and if they were off by a million or even one in a million, life could not evolve. Even if some of these constants had differed by 1 in 10 to the power of 60 then life could not evolve.<a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn7" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftn7" name="_ftnref7">[7]</a></p>
<p>Second, some of the worst forms of evil involve human cruelty and evil but in order to identify these things as such this requires the existence of moral principles or rules that prohibit this kind of conduct and deem them as cruel or evil. Now one question that can be raised by many in the literature, William Lane Craig and J.L. Mackie spring to mind, is whether the existence of objective moral principles is likely on an atheistic view of the world.</p>
<p>Is it likely that in a universe composed entirely of matter and energy that objective principles or rules could come into existence independently of any mind? Many people find this a puzzling question. My point is not to endorse (or reject) these lines of inquiry; it is simply to show that it is not obvious that the typical sceptical view is any more defensible given the existence of evil than belief in God is and more work would need to be done by the sceptic to show that it is.</p>
<p>So my response to the problem of evil then is three fold. The objection relies on an assumption that is false or at any rate, an assumption that no reason is forthcoming as to why a Christian should accept it. Further, even if evil does make the existence of God improbable one would need further argument to show that this meant Christianity was irrational. Finally, even if the sceptic could do this it the problem of the mirror remains, one would need to show that the alternatives to Christianity, such as skepticism, were better able to account for the existence of evil. As none of these criteria have been met, I remain a Christian. </p></div>
<p><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"><span style="font-size:85%;">[1]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Timothy Keller <i>Reason For God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism</i> (New York: Dutton, 2008) xvii-xviii.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2"><span style="font-size:85%;">[2]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Daniel Howard-Snyder “God, Evil, and Suffering” in <i>Reason for the Hope Within</i> (Eerdmans 1999), ed. Michael J. Murray, 3, http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~howardd/god,evil,andsuffering.pdf.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref3" name="_ftn3"><span style="font-size:85%;">[3]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Ibid, 4.<br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn4" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref4" name="_ftn4"><span style="font-size:85%;">[4]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Alvin Plantinga <em>Warranted Christian Belief</em> (Oxford University Press: 2000) 466.<span style="color:#000099;"><br /></span></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn5" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref5" name="_ftn5"><span style="font-size:85%;">[5]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Keller <i>Reason for God xvii-xviii.</i><br /><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn6" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref6" name="_ftn6"><span style="font-size:85%;">[6]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> William Alston</span> &#8220;Some Temporary Final Thoughts on Evidential Arguments from Evil&#8221; in <em>The Evidential Argument from Evil</em> ed Daniel Howard-Snyder (Bloomington Indianapolis, Indiana University Press: 1996) 317.</span><br /></span><a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn7" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=5710845602477644495#_ftnref7" name="_ftn7"><span style="font-size:85%;">[7]</span></a><span style="font-size:85%;"> Francis S. Collins <i>The Language of God: A scientist Presents Evidence for the Existence of God</i> (Free Press, 2006) 75. </span></p>
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