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Sam Harris on Divine Commands: Part One

May 24th, 2013 by Matt
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William Lane Craig v Sam HarrisIn a previous post, Divine Commands and Pyschopathic Tendancies, I said I would look in more detail at Sam Harris’ charge that Divine Command Theories (“DCT”) of meta-ethics are psychopathic. In this, and in several forthcoming posts, I will attempt to deliver on that promise.

In Harris’ debate with William Lane Craig at Notre Dame, transcript here, Harris offered three direct lines of argument against a DCT. (I say direct lines because many of Harris’ rebuttals did not address DCT at all; rather he engaged popular objections to Christian doctrines about exclusivism and hell.) The first direct argument was as follows:

“According to Dr Craig’s Divine Command theory, God is not bound by moral duties; God doesn’t have to be good. Whatever he commands is good, so when he commands that the Israelites slaughter the Amalekites, that behavior becomes intrinsically good because he commanded it.”

Here Harris makes three claims.  First he argues that according to a DCT God does not “have to be good”. Second, he infers from this that God can therefore make any action at all intrinsically good. Third, he alludes to an incident in the book of Samuel where, on the face of it, God commands the killing of the Amalekites.

Turning to Harris’s first claim, according to DCT a person has a duty to a person to do some action only if that person is commanded by God to do it. As God does not issue commands to himself he is not bound by moral duties. Harris infers from this that “God doesn’t have to be good”.

Whether this is inference is sound depends on what Harris means by “have to be good”. There are at least two possible things he could mean by this.

Sometimes when we say someone does or does not “have” to do something, we mean they are not morally obligated to do it. When I tell my children they have to tell the truth, for example, I am saying they have a duty to tell the truth. In other contexts however, when we say that someone does or does not “have” to do something we mean it is possible for them to do it.

If Harris, in saying “God does not have to be good”, means God is not under an obligation to be good then his inference is sound; if God is not bound by duties then he obviously does not have an obligation to be good. This, however, does not entail that it is logically possible for God to lack goodness.

If, on the other hand, Harris’ claim that “God does not have to be good” carries the implication that it is possible for God to do evil then it is a a flat out straw man.

Craig’s position is that [Read more →]

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Advance: Exploring Tough Questions About Christianity

April 23rd, 2013 by Madeleine
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This blog’s Matthew Flannagan is scheduled to speak alongside Dr Glenn Peoples, Dr Chris Tucker, Sean du Toit and Jacqui Lloyd at this Friday’s one day Auckland conference Advance: Exploring Tough Questions About Christianity.

Advance: Exploring Tough Questions About Christianity

From the promotional material:

Are faith and reason enemies? Should we take Christianity seriously in the world of ideas? Can we even know that Christianity is true? Thinking Matters and Evangelical Union are proud to host Christian philosopher, blogger, and popular speaker Dr Glenn Peoples to explore these questions and examine the evidence.

Workshops sessions available:

    • Dr Chris Tucker on the ‘problem of evil’
    • Shawn Means on maths, the universe, and God
    • Sean du Toit on who wrote the books of the New Testament
    • Dr Matthew Flannagan on reading difficult Old Testament passages

The day will conclude with a panel featuring Dr Glenn Peoples, Dr Matthew Flannagan, and Jacqui Lloyd which is open to any question.

The location is ‘GAPS’ 17A Powell St, Avondale – slightly out of the city (and a 10 min walk from Avondale train station), this rustic location is ideal for seminars and discussion.

Cost: $15. Lunch is included.

Register at the Facebook event page here.

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Easter Sunday: Contemplating the Resurrection Accounts

March 31st, 2013 by Matt
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He RoseMatt preached the Easter Sunday message at Takanini Community Church this morning. Listen to his message  “Contemplating the Resurrection Accounts” online or download it as an MP3.

(Read Matthew 28:1-15 first.)

Related post: Good Friday: The Ritual of Contemplating the Cross

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Good Friday: The Ritual of Contemplating the Cross

March 29th, 2013 by Matt
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Good FridayMatt preached the Good Friday message at Takanini Community Church this morning. Listen to his message  “The Ritual of Contemplating the Cross” online or download it as an MP3.

(Read John 19 first.)

Related post: Good Friday: Why Celebrate Easter?

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Why Defend Christianity? Hear Matthew Flannagan speak on Thursday

March 28th, 2013 by Matt
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Matt is speaking for Thinking Matters on the topic Why Defend Christianity? This coming Thursday, from the Facebook Event:

Matthew Flannagan“The Christian faith seems increasingly at odds with those in the world around us. From the media, to skeptical teachers and unbelieving peers, the gospel seems irrelevant and out of date. How do we talk to others about God and the Bible? Can we really argue people into the kingdom of God? Or should we just focus on compassion and loving others? Next Thursday, Thinking Matters Auckland is hosting Christian theologian Dr Matt Flannagan to speak on these questions and more. Matt will examine the Biblical and practical evidence for defending Christianity and show why it is vital to knowing and communicating our faith in the 21st Century. The event is free, so come along and bring a friend.

Matt is a theologian and prominent New Zealand Christian commentator, debater, and blogger. He specialises in applied ethics and the interface between philosophy and theology. Currently, Matt works part-time as a teaching pastor and youth group leader for Takanini Church of Christ while he runs the popular blog MandM with his wife Madeleine.

Thinking Matters is a New Zealand Christian ministry that exists to encourage the life of the mind in the love of God.”

Thursday 4 April @ 7.30pm @ Auckland Chinese Presbyterian Church105 Vincent Street, Auckland, New Zealand

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Flannagan v ACC: 5 Years on, an Update

March 23rd, 2013 by Madeleine
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On Tuesday 26 March 2013 it will be 5 years since I was in a car accident that destroyed a cervical disc and saw me need surgery to have an artificial disc inserted and which left me with an ongoing pain condition and a habit of dropping things and having tingly episodes in my hands – still!

At the time of the accident I was on track to become an in house counsel for one of NZ’s leading brands; the company were paying for me to complete my law degree.

Initially ACC covered my income and treatment costs (well, part of them). They did not cover the part of my remuneration which related to my university fees and text books.

They sent me to see a specialist who is considered by many within his own field and has been found by the court to have, in the face of contrary evidence, “stuck to his tried and true assertion that degeneration is the cause” (read the judgment in Lu v ACC). He made no exception for me stating that was his diagnosis as I entered his rooms, before he asked me a single medical question, before he saw my scans. Matt was with me and saw this.

ACC cut my cover after he wrote his report. This spun us into significant hardship. So I hired the best ACC lawyers I could find. I took ACC to a review hearing conducted by ACC’s own reviewer. I lost. My lawyer told the court I would appeal. Two other specialists have now examined me and my files, both agree my condition is the result of an accident, both have written evidence for the court stating this. My lawyer has written her submissions. Yesterday Matt and I swore our affidavits, which we wrote ourselves and had my lawyer vet. This coming week my appeal will finally be filed. I hope to have a court date this year.

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Yet Another Lawyer Agrees: Marriage Amendment Act Bill is an Affront to Freedom of Religion and Belief

March 13th, 2013 by Madeleine
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Barrister Ian Bassett has given another opinion describing the risks to freedom of religion and belief of Louisa Wall’s Marriage Amendment Act Bill if it is enacted in its presently proposed form, which would include this amendment:

“Without limiting the generality of subsection (1), no celebrant who is a minister of religion recognised by a religious body enumerated in Schedule 1, and no celebrant who is a person nominated to solemnize marriages by an approved organisation, is obliged to solemnize a marriage if solemnizing that marriage would contravene the religious beliefs of the religious body or the religious beliefs or philosophical or humanitarian convictions of the approved organisation.”

It is clear that any marriage celebrant exercising their public function who is not covered by the amendment risks being in breach of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990 and the Human Rights Act 1993 if they refuse to perform their public function as marriage celebrants because it is a same sex couple seeking to be married.

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Church ministers, marriage celebrants, court registrars, church elders, leaders, photographers and caterers and any other person or entity supplying services to the public risks being in breach of the Human Rights Act 1993 if they refuse to supply services to a couple seeking to be married because the couple are same sex. For some this could also mean risking their employment.

Service providers to the public risk being in breach of the Human Rights Act 1993 if they refuse to supply services to a married couple because the couple are same sex.

The New Zealand Law Society’s Law Reform Committee headed by Professor Paul Rishworth LLB (Hons) M Jur highlighted the risk to freedom of religion and belief in the Bill in its submission to Parliament:

“The proposer of the Bill said that the Bill was not intended to compel marriage celebrants to perform marriages contrary to their religious beliefs. However, in the Law Society’s view, Professor Rishworth says it is arguable that marriage celebrants who refuse to perform same-sex marriages will be acting unlawfully under the Human Rights Act 1993, the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990, or both.

“We want to highlight arguable conclusions which seem to be at odds with the settled intentions of the Bill’s drafters. Whatever the position, the Law Society believes it makes sense to put the matter beyond doubt,” Professor Rishworth says.

The only thing that the amended Bill puts beyond doubt is that the critics of those raising fears about the Bill’s threat to freedom of religion and belief were wrong. By recommending an amendment the Select Committee are agreeing that a risk existed, as the likes of Ian Bassett, Grant Illingworth have argued, contra to The Human Rights Commission’s claim that all “…religious officials and leaders are free to refuse to perform marriages that are not in accordance with their religious beliefs.”

Bassett, Illingworth and Rishworth are not alone with their concerns among the legal fraternity.

Graeme Edgeler, a Wellington Barrister has been quoted in the Herald saying:

… if an independent celebrant declined to marry a same-sex couple, the couple could then complain to the Human Rights Commission.

“It’s not about [celebrants] being forced, it’s about people getting in trouble afterwards if they didn’t,” he told APNZ.

“They’re not breaking any rule in the Marriage Act, but rules in other acts. The main one would be the Human Rights Act, which says you can’t discriminate on the basis on sexual orientation or gender.”

Auckland Barrister Rachel Wong has raised issues against the Bill.

This blog’s Madeleine Flannagan LLB, Associate Barrister and Solicitor at Coast Legal, adds her voice:

“The Bill, in its present form, fails to protect individual freedom of religion and belief (belief being a comprehensive viewpoint not based on religion). The proposed amendment only protects group religious rights, which is little protection at all for most religious celebrants as few denominations hold formal views on marriage, many practitioners of religion do not belong to a group and for those that do they might hold a different personal view on this topic to the group view. The amendment then fails to protect the religious freedom of most religious celebrants just as it utterly fails to protect the freedom of belief of non-religious celebrants who have no group to appeal to to protect their freedom.”

Ian Bassett’s latest opinion thoroughly analyses the legal effects of the amended Bill, a summary as to whose freedom of religion and belief it protects and whose it does not follows: [Read more →]

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